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    Default Good read about Var only cycle..

    Did about 400 google searches about var only cycles, and this was the best read I found. I know someone who got pharm grade var and ran an 8 week cycle at only 30mg and gained 12lbs. Lots of you seem knowledgeable about Var, can you give this a look and see if its accurate?



    I have seen about three threads a day in the past month on anavar alone, and they all turn into arguments involving the same parties....so let this just be a "guide" for an individual planning/considering using oxandrolone as a standalone compound.

    First, id like to get a few things straight about var.

    MYTHS

    Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
    False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

    Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
    This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
    If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

    Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
    This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


    LIBIDO

    The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

    #1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

    #2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

    #3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

    BENEFITS

    Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

    #1 - Vascularity
    Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

    #2 - Pumps
    When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

    #3 - Strength
    Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

    #4 - Fat Loss
    Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

    CYCLE

    Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

    Cycle #1
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
    Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

    Cycle #2
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

    Cycle #3
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11
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    Good read, and I pretty much agree with this article....Im using Var now with Test, and some EQ (going to drop out the EQ, cause it seems to raise my RBC count, gotta get that blood draw here soon) and I notice that my strengh is going up, my weight is up to around 250lbs (from just 230lbs a month ago, ofcourse this is just old muscle coming back) and my pumps are killer....Var is a good oral to use...

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    Definitely crazy pumps, but @ 40mg/day my libido was very high.
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    I may be the weirdo in the room but anavar makes me dizzy. I thought it might have been something else but I have dropped it and started again over and over and it always has the same effect. It does harden me up and strength gains were very noticeable.
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    I knew you guys would know your shit about anavar! Its looking more and more like im going to go down this root. From everything im reading about this, you do not really need a pre wo supp, due to vars great pumps, and i doubt id run any post wo creatine with it. Im so tired of dropping 200 a month on supps with little payoff.

    Once I find a reputable place or person to get this, im also going to get some nolva and milk thistle to be on the safe side. Any other suggestions? The guy I know that did the 30mg a day was 59 years old and got great results, would that due for a 200lb 32 year old?
     

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    bump for Metal85 who was just asking about anavar
     

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    good anavar cycle and stacking info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cenzo78 View Post

    Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

    Cycle #1
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
    Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

    Cycle #2
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

    Cycle #3
    Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
    Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11
    I dont know about anavar (Oxandrolone) showing diminishing effects or returns at 80mg daily dosage. This post was years ago, but extremely high on google so i thought i would update it with todays information we now know about since the entire steroid trade has moved from mexico to china, and under ground labs all over the world lol , such as now days your more likely to receive Winstrol (stanzolol) instead of legitimate Anavar, this not only goes for anavar tabs, but also powder, though its easy to spot the powder differences and not so easy to tel a winny tab from an anavar tab until its kicked in and you feel the differences.

    Also now days everyone say you need at the very least 80mg daily anavar to feel it working well, and this too may have something to do with the steroid era we now live in and the quality of steroids being sold and cycled by bodybuilders now days are not nearly as pure as they were just a decade ago! However even with real anavar i still do not believe you will see a diminishing return at 80mgs, but i do believe as i just mentioned that if its real pure then yeah you can get away with feeling geat on 40-60mg dose daily!


    As far as the 3 cycles laid out in this original piece which i have quoted above, well i dont even know where to begin lol, so i wont bother with cycle number #1, it just a shitty cycle.

    Steroid Cycle #2 I can work with lol and yes proviron and anavar will stack well together though those doses look more suited for a female bodybuilder than a male.

    Steroid Cycle #3 Anavar, Testosterone Propionate for 8 week cycle, pretty sweet combination , but again, dosages look more suited for women, whereas a male bodybuilder would like use at least 150mg Test Propionate every other day, and the clomiphene 2 week layout and daily dosage looks fine.

    Anyhow, thats my update on the ANAVAR thread lol,

    Since Anavar so highly sought after while also being faked so much, maybe some of the members here can share their experience with what Brands of Anavar have worked well for them in the past and maybe share their cycle dosages.
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    I have never taken anavar but this is a great article.
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    hey, so i am a girl who lifts... its my first time into steroids and i am starting next week an only var cycle so i will lose excess fat and get lean as this is always the hard part and i really lose fat very very hard and never before got really lean as wanted.. so i am getting var from pct-shop and they told me to start 20 mg of var the first 2 weeks and 30 mg another 3 weeks.. so i think the dosage is way bigger for a girl as the begginers start from 5 mg to 20 mg.. so i told my trainer that and told me to do what he says.. what do you think .. i will be thankful for helping :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by raf2899 View Post
    hey, so i am a girl who lifts... its my first time into steroids and i am starting next week an only var cycle so i will lose excess fat and get lean as this is always the hard part and i really lose fat very very hard and never before got really lean as wanted.. so i am getting var from pct-shop and they told me to start 20 mg of var the first 2 weeks and 30 mg another 3 weeks.. so i think the dosage is way bigger for a girl as the begginers start from 5 mg to 20 mg.. so i told my trainer that and told me to do what he says.. what do you think .. i will be thankful for helping :/
    Well if its your first time using any steroid of any kind, then those anavar dosages are a bit high. Though maybe you were more thorough with them in your states and goals, what training youll be doing which could change things a bit making you need slightly higher anavar dosages. Will the anavar be used primarily as a muscle builder and your already lean, or are you trying to lose a ton of body fat and the anavar will be used for muscle sparing effects due to high cardio volume sessions etc.., so without knowing much about you i wouldnt be comfortable suggesting a dosage nor going against someone elses advice to you with your dose of anavar, but I can say as a general statement that a female first time to steroids , most do not start out at 20mg and jump right to 30mg after 2 weeks.

    now even with all that said, those dosages arent overkill by any stretch of the imagination, but being your new to all steroids, you might get ample benefit from 10-15mg to start with.
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    bumping my reply to raf2899 in our anavar only thread
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    ok, no reply from here lmao,

    great Anavar profile information anyhow to bump up for other men and women to read, whether taking anavar only cycle or stacking your var with other steroids!

    I think another option for a female who wants to stack her cycle but without real harsh steroids, then anavar alongside a sarm like Ostarine i think would be really good for a women without the side effects,

    I would like to hear if anyone women or even male, have any experience with the synergy between using anavar (oxandrolone) with a Sarm in their cycle, specifically would like to know about Ostarine anavar cycle and what dosages and duration was the cycle along with gains made?

    thnx!
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    Oxandrolone aka ANAVAR stacked with SARM like Ostarine, has anyone done this as per my last question lmao,
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    I had actually planned to do something like that soon Press. However I'm pretty sure my last 2 runs with var were bunk. Not sure I wanna spend$ again to chance it.
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    Just threw in some low dose var. Scored it for free off of a buddy. Have to say I really appreciate the stuff. It is like positivity in a bottle. Noticed my hair thinned a little though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Destructo View Post
    Just threw in some low dose var. Scored it for free off of a buddy. Have to say I really appreciate the stuff. It is like positivity in a bottle. Noticed my hair thinned a little though.

    And your hair thinning you think due to the anavar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tilla52 View Post
    I had actually planned to do something like that soon Press. However I'm pretty sure my last 2 runs with var were bunk. Not sure I wanna spend$ again to chance it.
    Did you ever run it? or similar cycle with a SARM and Anavar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Well if its your first time using any steroid of any kind, then those anavar dosages are a bit high. Though maybe you were more thorough with them in your states and goals, what training youll be doing which could change things a bit making you need slightly higher anavar dosages. Will the anavar be used primarily as a muscle builder and your already lean, or are you trying to lose a ton of body fat and the anavar will be used for muscle sparing effects due to high cardio volume sessions etc.., so without knowing much about you i wouldnt be comfortable suggesting a dosage nor going against someone elses advice to you with your dose of anavar, but I can say as a general statement that a female first time to steroids , most do not start out at 20mg and jump right to 30mg after 2 weeks.

    now even with all that said, those dosages arent overkill by any stretch of the imagination, but being your new to all steroids, you might get ample benefit from 10-15mg to start with.
    Agreed with presser 100℅ on this post he hit the nail on the Head
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    Anavar cycle info for newbies!!
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    OLD, and still relevant as with most traditional hormones! Anavar is one of those tried and true time tested orals! Sadly many will get winstrol instead of anavar due to the cost and assholes liking to sell fake bullshit to people!

    Yes you will know the difference right away if you know what real Oxandrolone and real stanozolol feel like!

    I personally would put anyone on blast publicly for this shady shit! Another words feel free to let others know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    OLD, and still relevant as with most traditional hormones! Anavar is one of those tried and true time tested orals! Sadly many will get winstrol instead of anavar due to the cost and assholes liking to sell fake bullshit to people!

    Yes you will know the difference right away if you know what real Oxandrolone and real stanozolol feel like!

    I personally would put anyone on blast publicly for this shady shit! Another words feel free to let others know
    i thought you wrote above you could tell the difference in the powders. so if i may ask what are they? thanks.
    all that you read here is only for entertainment purposes.

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    Old thread, but a great read.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    i thought you wrote above you could tell the difference in the powders. so if i may ask what are they? thanks.
    Yes you can clearly see in photos online winstrol and micronized winstrol appear to be more salty granular looking whereas anavar aka oxandrolone looks more like flour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Yes you can clearly see in photos online winstrol and micronized winstrol appear to be more salty granular looking whereas anavar aka oxandrolone looks more like flour
    i could only find a couple of pictures of the two. been looking since i wanted to know. both looked the opposite of what you wrote. the var looked crystalline and the winny looks like flour. now i am confused. both were from sellers. not trying to correct you, just want to make sure.
    all that you read here is only for entertainment purposes.

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    Oxandrolone aka Anavar most like Ostarine mk-2866 when speaking of comparisons, for those who do not wish to take a well know steroid and opt for a non scheduled anabolic steroid Ostarine
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    Default Anavar Alone can be a serious game changer for females wanting to add lean quality muscle

    "Oxandrolone" Anavar Alone and best cycle protocols for Women.

    Touted as one of the steroidal hormones best suited for cutting cycles, can be and is a very effective steroid for females looking to pack on some lean quality muscle gains without the sever masculine side effects. I say sever because if you run high enough dosages for longer than recommended durations your going to still run into these issues.

    Where is that point in females, well it various, so instead of telling you when you'll start sounding like james earl jones, I will instead provide a safe dosing and duration schedule that any female can follow with successes in both reaching their goals, and staying a feminine.

    Week 1-12 1st 2n 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th
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    5mg daily x 7days

    7.5mg daily x 7days 7.5mg daily x 7days 7.5mg daily x 7days 10mg daily x 7days 10mg daily x 7days 10mg daily x 7days 15mg daily x 7days 20mg daily x 7days 20mg daily x 7days 20mg daily x 7days 20mg daily x 7days


    I know 20mg daily doesnt sound like much to most of you, but for anyone who has experience running 20mg daily as a female, then you'll know you can seriously pack on quality muscle mass at this dosage and its the absolute max duration and dosage i would ever advise if it was someone i knew who wanted to run anavar. keep in mind it is a DHT anabolic steroid with the ability to increase metabolism. So it is important that your diet in on par with your training if your going to get the most out of this cycle.






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    Anavar article still worth reading to go with today’s posted Oxandrolone var study
    Author: Ben Presser
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