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    Default Deca Durabolin: Miracle or Monster?



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    DECA DURABOLIN (Nandrolone decanoate)

    Deca Durabolin has a long history of use in the athletic community and remains, to this day, to be one of the most popular steroids in the sport's world. The popularity it enjoys stems from the fact that it has a very high anabolic activity and produces significant mass increases with relatively few side effects. It also produces less water retention, has less effect on blood pressure and is far less toxic to the liver and kidneys than most of its mass-building buddies.

    Another interesting quality of Deca is that is helps alleviate the pain of sore joints. Some speculate that it exerts this effect by occupying the same anti-inflammatory receptors that cortisol does. In doing so, it displaces the more catabolic cortisol and replaces it with an anabolic analogue that has similar anti-inflammatory properties. While this sounds like a miracle for athletes with connective tissue problems and moderate to severe joint pain, there's some data to suggest that it might also be the root of some chronic degenerative changes that occur in the joint later in life.
    Of course it would be misleading to present Deca Durabolin as a drug completely devoid of side effects. When dosages go beyond 400-600mg/week sensitive individuals may see an increase in blood pressure, prolonged bleeding time of cuts, increased oil production by the sebaceous gland (leading to acne breakouts), increased hostility, increased sex drive and a fall in sperm production. If blood pressure increases too much, headaches can become more frequent. Oh, and of course we can't overlook the fact that long-term use of this drug by male athletes can lead to impotence (which is the exact opposite of the increased sex drive experienced when dosages are kept within limits and for acceptable durations of time). The dreaded "Deca Dick" (as it has become widely known) doesn't seem to affect users that are combining Deca with another more androgenic compound such as testosterone, trenbolone, or dianabol.
    As for the female user, women can usually get away with a dose of up to 50mg/week without any major problems. However, virilization (masculinizing side effects) is always a concern when women use any anabolic hormone. While each individual user has differing sensitivities and side effects , common problems include deepening of the voice, increased body and facial hair, increased acne breakouts, and clitoral hypertrophy .
    As with all steroids, diet is very important for effectiveness to be maximized. Protein intake should be high, as should overall calorie intake if significant mass gains are to be experienced.

    RECOMMENDED DOSAGES:

    Deca Durabolin is commonly used in the range of 200 - 600 mg/week. Injecting more than 600mg/week is not advised. Despite this fact, there are many reports of bodybuilders taking as much as 1000mg/ week. In the case of Deca Durabolin, more is not necessarily better.
    Most male athletes experience good results with dosages as low as 400mg/week. If large gains in muscle mass are the primary goal then stacking Deca with drugs such as Dianabol and Testosterone is not uncommon.
    For female athletes 25-50mg/week is the commonly used dose and this is often combined with Winstrol, Anavar, or Primobolan tablets. Dosages over 100mg are not advised.

    In conclusion, Deca Durabolin is often used where problems with testosterone use have been encountered. It is less prone to aromatization and is deemed to produce an overall sense of well being. One final warning; for those intending to participate in sports that drug-test their athletes, it's important to understand that Deca metabolites can last in the body for up to 18 months (and possibly longer depending on bodyfat levels during use) which can easily result in a failed drug test for upwards of a year and a half after the final injection
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    I'm using Deca now at 400 mg/week along with test e. I'm definitely noticing the strength benefits, but don't know if it's helping the joints yet or not.
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    I would have to say it's a miracle unless you don't have your pct lined up, then it becomes a monster

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    Default Deca Durabolin: Miracle or Monster?

    Hands down the best AAS that I have ever used. After more than 10 years of use I just recently went higher on the doses of Deca and the results have been outstanding.
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    It's good. 200mg deca per week with test c (testex) 500mg and 30 mg dbal per day = i have gained 8kg in 8 weeks and lose nothing. After the 2 weeks off and 10 days ptc, i fear i lose weight but i gain 1 more kg.
    *deca or dbol gave me bloating / and eatting a little more than usual in and after ptc to keep the gains don't help with bloating..but i will recuperate in the summer with diet and test+tren
    *strenght gains low = around 10-15% more / not very pleased but i'm not a powerlifter so.. + in my next cycle i will use more mg

    next cycle start on 18 feb = 750mg test c + 300mg deca + 30mg dbol -> in this cycle, i think i will start lose gains after the cycle like everybody else
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    very good, just found this old gem and figure i would bump it up to share with y'all
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    Quote Originally Posted by big n wv View Post
    I would have to say it's a miracle unless you don't have your pct lined up, then it becomes a monster
    What is meant by this.
    Is there a pct to recommend for deca? Some thing I've not heard of maybe ??
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    i think he was speaking of the bad prolonged deca dick some get from the conversion to progesterone
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    Ok so just a normal pct. with an anti p on hand during cycle. But maybe run pct a little longer due to the long acting deca compound right. ??
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    Or maybe just wait a little longer to start your pct because the the ester is one of the longest you will find.
     

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    Maybe run the caber longer too.
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    yeah a bit of both answers above lol, grab some mc anti-p
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    I always heard that as long as your E2 is in check, the progesterone won't be a problem. Not sure if this is bro science or not, so always keep some Anti-P on hand, just in case.
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    I have heard that too. There has to be estrogen present for progesterone induced gyno to occur.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    yeah a bit of both answers above lol, grab some mc anti-p
    Presser. Does mc anti-p work for deca? I know that prami or caber is recommended when using deca.
     

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    Pretty sure it's the same thing as caber.
     

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    Bumping.... cause I'm on a Deca trip. lol
     

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    What are your thoughts on comparing Deca to NPP?? I am looking to pickup one of them very soon to stack with dbol.
     

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    i liked the NPP, and if any sides popped up i was able to stop it and it would be out of my system fast, as i was afraid it may happend as i get issues with deca , but NPP was awsome and i got all the added benefits of joints feeling better and it helped with synovial fluid
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    2nd the NPP
     

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    Thanks fellas...I was gonna grab that from PSL this week to line up with some dbol. I was leaning toward NPP and now you guys confirmed it. You think I need to run some Aromasin during that? Or what PCT you recommend? I did grab a few MC products to keep on hand. Thanks
     

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    Im trying out a low test,high deca cycle and so far so good. Test 250/Deca 600

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    Im trying out a low test,high deca cycle and so far so good. Test 250/Deca 600
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    I was going to try that... but was scared of the low test. I need to build up strength in my tendons coming off two rotator cuff surgeries. Please keep us informed. If you don't mind start a thread about it. Thanks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEASTZ6 View Post
    Presser. Does mc anti-p work for deca? I know that prami or caber is recommended when using deca.
    Yes indeedy anti-p works great for deca just like dostinex
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    Bump great read
     

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