What gh and slin has done for me!

I've done numerous cycles starting around 205 going up to 215 then back down. Then another I got to 221 and sunk back to 205-208 eventually. This is after about 3 years of cycling having brought up from 170. so I was sorta at a sticking point with AS at 205. So I added slin and hgh to my next cycle and jumped from 205 to 236. The AS part of my cycle has since ended about 5-6 weeks ago but I'm still on the gh and slin. MY weight dropped from 237 to 229 when I came off, mostly water I suppose, but I just weighed myself and am now 242!!! And this is not fat gain. I am just as lean and alot stronger. My strength has gone up every week still since I've been off... GOD I love gh/slin. I noticed the slin immediately and I think the gh didn't really do anything for me until after my 14th week on it or so. Anyways I'm going to continue to run gh/slin and my next cycle will be starting in july. Anyways I just had to rant cuz I'm so excited about breaking through a MAJOR barrier that I was stuck behind at 205. I never dreamed of making 242 and being off of AS!!!!! I'm only 22 yrs old, which is too young as most would say for gh but I have to say that it does work in young people. I do attribute most of the weight gain to slin but gh I think played a big part. I just hope I keep adding mass while I'm "off" of AS till my next cycle.

Anyways I was about to give up thinking I'd never make it but I kept talking to some bb'ers who were 260ish and asked them if they ever were stuck as low as I was being 200-205 and they said yes they got stuck there for years and just to stick with it. so I did and along w/ some supplemental help I have broken through a barrier that I oscillated back and forth from for nearly 2 years.

So to all you out there who think you can never break your barriers I am living proof that you can, so don't give up! Have an iron will and determination and anything is possible..

Well I was just so excited from seeing 242 on the scale I had to post and rant.... I guess that's all for now,,,bigjosh

Great news bigjosh!

Can you spell out the details of your GH & slin administration both during your cycle and post (times per week, doses, etc.)?

My cycle was as follows:
weeks 1-5: 50mg Dbol ED
weeks 1-8: 2g test enanthate /wk
weeks 1-11: 2.5mg femara ED
weeks 10-14: clomid therapy
weeks 1-present: 6iu's hgh ED, 3iu's upon waking, 3iu's later in day

weeks 1-present (present is now my 20th week maybe?): 8-20iu's humalog 1-2 times daily.

also pgf2 useage sporatically, but nothing to note for cycle.

My slin useage has been highly variable just depending on how busy I am and how much I am willing to eat. I generally take 20iu's post workout (or preworkout when I'm feeling gutsy) and maybe 10iu's upon waking.

I've been off of all but the hgh and slin for 5-6 weeks and have still been getting gains. The past the weeks I've been doing 15iu's humalog w/ 3ius gh upon waking and then 20iu's humalog post workout w/ 3iu's gh. or sometimes I wait and take the 3iu's gh later in the day after workout... but for the most part that's it.

I know the above doseages on my AS cycle seem a little "high" but I always do such doseages. They are common to all my cycles. 1g of test a week is the base of every one of my cycles providing i have femara

My original plan was to do the 5on two off w/ the gh/slin but that only happenneed a couple of times. It ended up mainly being ED thing...I just can't let shit sit there,,,lol. Now the slin I have taken 1-4 days off here and there and had no probs...but for the most part everything has been used ED.
Anyways i think I coverred everything if you have any questions feel free to ask...

The past the weeks I've been doing 15iu's humalog w/ 3ius gh upon waking

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Are you taking these at the same time? I've always heard that this was a big no-no because slin will greatly hinder the effects of GH. I'm pretty sure on this but not 100% so maybe some other people can comment.

I know the above doseages on my AS cycle seem a little "high" but I always do such doseages. They are common to all my cycles. 1g of test a week is the base of every one of my cycles providing i have femara

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Don't seem high to me, lol!

Congrats on getting past your barrier, its a great feeling isn't it?
I'd love to add hgh, but the cost is just too much for me, and I'm not sure I want to mess with slin. I don't think I know enough about it.
Keep pressing on, you've really made some good progress!

Good job on your results bro, they are quite inspiring since your bodybuilding history sounds similar to mine. Keep us updated on your progress. Also do you plan on running igf this year?

What was your bf before you started?

I do not think slin hinders gains from AS. I'd actually think the oppossite. Since slin shuttles nutrients into your cells and your gh levels are high more growth should theoretically occur.

Also gh useage alone especially for long periods of time can render you diabetic from what I've read. So it is a good idea to take slin with your gh if you are running gh for a long time because gh is does cause your body to release insulin so exogenous insulin supplementation is good cuz it shuttles nutrients into cells and more importantly gives your pancreas a break if I'm not mistaken. If I'm wrong someone please correct me because I'd love to know. I'm no expert. Might be a good questions for decadent, basskiller, or scorpio or someone...

Also, my bodyfat was probably 9-10% before I started and now I'd say it's about the same, maybe less. I do have a wider face now (maybe gh causing jaw growth? or water ret or increased growth of jaw muscles) and my feet look bigger to me but still fit in my shoes so I dunno it might be in my head. My abdominal definition is the same as before cycle but my waste is bigger, could be from gh gut or just overall torso muscular development. I'm really not sure. But not worried about either whichever the case may be. All my lifts and size is way up and everyone notices... My muscles also all look more "mature". More bodybuilder like..i don't know how to explain it, but they are definitely of a nicer quality. The most obvious change is when I do a front lat pose. Like when you put your fists in to your hips and flex out your lats like wings and flex your bi's while sucking in your stomach... Overall I am overjoyed with all the effects I have recieved from the gh. MY look is comming closer and closer to my goals. I've had to set new goals recently since I've broken the old barriers. Reaching a goal is just a temporary thing because by the time I hit it I have something further down the line to push for. I always want to be "better".

And to answer Machine99's question I'd like to try igf-1 for my next cycle which will be starting the 1st or 2nd week of july. Money is the only issue. My next cycle will be as follows:

weeks 1-15+: insulin 2x's daily
weeks 1-5: 50-150mg Anadrol ED
weeks 1-13: 2.5mg femara ED
weeks 1-10: 1g Organon Sustenon /wk
weeks 1-10: 500mg Organon Deca /wk
weeks 5-10: 100mg Fina ED
Weeks 11-13,14 clomid therapy.

Hopefully if I can afford it the igf-1. I will run IGF-1 during the 10 weeks of that cycle but that's up in the air. Depends on money. Also I may add another 300mg of deca a week but it will be vet grade. I can only afford 500mg of human grade deca a week and this cycle I want to be ALL or mostly all human grade AS.

bigjosh, you misunderstood what I was asking. GH and slin at the same time (as in 6:00 3ius of GH, 10ius of slin) is bad. You should take them on the same day but spaced apart.

Again, I'm not 100% sure. I remember a study but that was refering to natural GH and slin. But I do also remember some article somewhere stating you shouldn't do this. I'll look around some and see if I can find it.

Who knows, if it's true you may be able to improve your results even more in the future.

Your going to run slin for 15 weeks straight? I have always cycled it - 2wks on, 2 wks off.

congrats bro...

the original plan was 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, but it ended up never ending slin supplementation.... What can I say I'm addicted. I take anything that will help me. I have quit for 5 days at a time b4 with no probs so I don't think i'm diabetic. I'm honestly not worried about it....maybe i'm dumb but that's the truth

Thanks for the insight. Something to consider when I am richer.

wish I could afford GH and IGF-I........oh yeah, HOLY SHIT at 2 grams of test per week.....I'm a freakin' unstoppable sexual Tyrannosaurus at 750 mg and so I was a little apprehensive about taking a full gram this time around.....I can't even imagine 2 grams...I'd prolly walk around 24/7 with the 'ole johnson in my hand

What did you eat during your GH cycle?

I love a good success story, congrats bro

I basically ate a min of 300g protein ED, but shot for 500g ED (2g per pound bodyweight). My diet consisted of lots of beef, poultry, fish, and literally about 8 servings of muscle milk ED. The first part of my cycle I was pigging out eating as much as my stomach could hold every 2 hours. I was eating enormous amounts of food. Just trying to get calories to grow. I did not gain bf though. I watched fat intake around slin administration times but that's it. I wanted to gain and pass up the past sticking point and having invested so much money in this cycle I was determined to get the weight barrier of 220 over once and for all and I did! I was prolly eating 5,000-7,000+ calories ED. But when i got to 235 i began to diet and was off the juice but still on slin and actually leaned up and gained up to 242 where i stand now. I've been eating only brocoli, beef, poultry, fish, rice, and 48 egg whites ED lately to drop bodyfat and my weight has still gone up! I also take 40g of glutamine and 40g creatine ED. I honestly feel that all my gains have been quality though and I will hold them now. I don't fear dropping back to 205 like I have before so many cycles. Slin and GH just pushed me up to another level. I imagine my next stickin point will be 250-260. We shall see...

thanks for all the compliments too guys. This achievement has been costly. both monetarily and socially, but the satisfaction it has yielded was worth every bit of effort, every forced feeding, every passed up party, every grewling workout. I am looking forward to the future and what lies ahead. I always have new goals.

See i couldn't stay above 215-220 for so long and thought bb'ing competition would never ben in my grasps. I kept falling back to 205. But I had gotten there from 170. so overall in four strict years of bb'ing I have brought my weight up 72 pounds which I think is good. After falling back and crashing each time i got to 220 i kept getting discouraged. See I never used to crash. I always did everything right, clomid therapy and all that. but I guess 205 was my natural bodies potential with natural hormonal levels. But now after using gh and slin for several months I am at a new level. I doubt I will ever be 220 again. Which feels dam good!!!! I never thought 242 was attainable, but I kept asking the "big guys" at the gym, the "monsters" and they all said don't worry bro we once were stuck there too, so this motivated me to keep at it and I'm glad I did. I never thought some 280 pound meat head could have been stuck at 205 for years, but they say they went through all that. So from what I have learned is if you want something badly enough keep working at it and it will come. ANYTHING is achieveable if you give it your all. Sticking points only make your progress more satisfactory, so don't get discouraged like I was for so long....

thanks for the compliments guys. I don't mean to brag, just am proud of my achievements and don't have many to share it with buy my MC fam. This is a lonely sport....

well i've rambled enough for now and am off to bed....

Thanks for your input,

did you also had an improved skin and less zits?
And did you also feel very active when you woke up in the morning?
And did the GH also improve your hair quality?

I just noticed that you took as many as 20 iu's of humalog.....hardcore, man. I shot 12 tonight, and still felt a little hypo off of about 150g of carbs

yea i gotta eat an assload to feel comfortable...and i've gotten some close calls b4...but i always keep stuff on me to alleviate any emergency if u know what i mean...