20 week cycle-For a friend

Hey I know someone that knows someone that was looking for some feedback on this cycle plan:
This is a 10 week bulk cycle followed immediately by a 10 week cutting cycle.
Late 30s -185lbs – 9-10%bf – 8-9 cycles under belt

Bulking
D-Ball – 35mg/ed week 1-4
Test Eth 800 mg /week weeks 1-10
Nolv. 20 mg /ed
Anastrozole 1/2mg /ed
Creatine 10g/ed
Milk Thistle ed
6000 cal. 8 meals a day 40%protein, 30% carbs, 30%fat

Cutting
Test Cyp. 400mg/week weeks 11-20
Fina 75mg/eod weeks 11-16
Winnie 50mg/ed weeks 16-20
GH 4 iu/ed weeks 15-20
T3 ramp 25 to 75 and down weeks 14-20
ECA and Clen 2 weeks on and off weeks 11-26
Nolv. 10mg/ed
Anastrozole .5mg/ed
ALA ed
Milk Thistle ed
Taper Calories down slowly and drop daily carbs 50 grams every week

Post Cycle
Clomid 100mg/ed week 22
Clomid 50mg/ed weeks 23 –26
HCG 1000iued for 10 days
Nolv. 10mg ed
Anastrozole .5mg/ed
Androgel 1 5g. packed ed weeks23-28
Milk Thistle
HMB
Creatine 5g ed

Supplements also used – Multi ed, Glutamine, Vit c and E , Flax seed oil, Schwartz Labs Whey, Hawthorn and BCAA’s


He responds easy to lower doses and bloats easy – noted by the Anti-E’s. Avoids Deca/EQ for dickie reasons!
Needs to be in contest condition mid December

i think 20 weeks is too much time.... go 10 weeks on for bulking, 10 weeks off, then 10 weeks cutting, if i understand correctly AS loses alot of its effectiveness after 12 weeks. I may be wrong though.

Twenty weeks straight on gear? That sounds a bit much. Why the rush? Why not what Winneevee said: 10 weeks on, 10 weeks off, and then 10 weeks on again.

1. too long of a cycle
2. On the bulking part, I would add either deca or eq
3. On the cutting cycle, your GH administration is too short to see benefits.
4. I'm not a big fan of Nolvadex. I would opt for .25mg liquidex ed

I think 20 weeks is fine especialy if u have 9 cycles under your belt, and receptors dont realy downregulate they upreglate plus your swithing tests anyhow, However I would opt for prop over cyp in the cutting cycle bro, huge difference in my opinion not a little difference. And like i said 20 weeks isnt shit in my opinion, not that i condone it or reccomend it to anyone but if your shooting for more then a beach body and have some serious goals in mind that sometimes you have to just go for it and say fuck it.

Thanks guys I'll tell him...

As for the Deca - this friend bloats real easy from Deca and the Deca dick is killer.
He thought about adding 400 mg of EQ or Deca and see how it feels.
He would love to add Prop. but seems to hurt bad - is there a brand that is less painful?
He'll look at adding a few more weeks of GH...cost is high as you know.

Don't have time to take a few weeks off. He needs to add about 20 lbs of mass and then cut down by mid December.

The Prop is too painful? Your friend will be plucking himself like a rubber chicken for five months straight...the little after-sting of prop should hardly deter him from using it. If he is tough enough to be on gear for 20 weeks straight I am sure he is tough enough to use prop, regardless of the brand.

prop,winnie,tren for the cutter,run all 3 right up to the show-gotta run the GH at least 12 weeks-6k calories is overkill for a 185# guy-just have more work to do pre-contest-I'd use slin in the bulker post training-definitely add the EQ to the bulker-I stay around 1 g total so I'd say 700 test-400 EQ-just my .02-Train Hard and Eat Clean-Good Luck!!

If he is tough enough to be on gear for 20 weeks straight I am sure he is tough enough to use prop, regardless of the brand

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sndmn6 – Thanks for the response and welcome to the MC.
Have you ever limped for 2 weeks with a lump the size of a golf ball in your quad or glute.
Turned all black and blue. It sucks when you can feel the lump from your last 6 or 7 injections. After a while you run out of places to stick yourself.This has happened 2 times with 2 different brands of Prop. This fellow loves Sust and it is OK for the first 3-4 weeks and then it might as well be all Prop with the pain that starts.
I think this cat might have a allergy to BA – not sure. Primo hurt him just as bad but it was worth the pain for 10 weeks because of the cost – lol.

Thanks

I ran 20 week cycle before.. I wont switch bulk to cut in such a short amount of time... I love to get big and stay on and to let my body get used to being big... not bulk up and try and cut up right after gaining new muscle.. but I dont really lose much strength or size when I come off unless I diet down... 6"2" 260lbs and bulking as we speak..
50 mg d-bol ED week 1 untill I run out LOL
deca 450mg week
test cyp 800mg ed
might run anywhere from 15 to 20 weeks when gains slow might end cycle or depending might up dose or add tren to the cycle... but it is definately bulk time... and I am shooting about 80mg of homebrew suspension a few hours prior to working out only on gym days... love the suspension in oil... just stretching gave me pumps LOL

800mg ED?-typo right?