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Clen FAQ by ANDY13
Clenbuterol FAQ: Everything you need to know about Clen
I wrote this because of all the confusion that surrounds this drug. Enjoy.
What is Clenbuterol?
Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, Clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.
Dosing and Cycling
Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.
Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP
Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.
DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.
As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.
Side effects
NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN
The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure.
Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach.
Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose.
Common Uses
Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.
Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.
Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.
Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.
Precautions: Is Clen for you?
The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.
What else do I need to know?
Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.
A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.
Example of a first cycle:
Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
Example of a second cycle:
Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100mcg
Day14: 80mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.
All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.
That about covers everything.
Clenbuterol FAQ: Everything you need to know about Clen
I wrote this because of all the confusion that surrounds this drug. Enjoy.
What is Clenbuterol?
Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, Clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.
Dosing and Cycling
Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.
Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP
Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.
DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.
As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.
Side effects
NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN
The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure.
Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach.
Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose.
Common Uses
Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.
Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.
Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.
Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.
Precautions: Is Clen for you?
The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.
What else do I need to know?
Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.
A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.
Example of a first cycle:
Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
Example of a second cycle:
Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100mcg
Day14: 80mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack
Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.
All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.
That about covers everything.
H
Harvey Balboner
Guest
CLENBUTEROL FAQ 1.0 by Nick Bockwinkle
1.What is Clenbuterol and how does it work?
Simply put, Clenbuterol hydrochloride (the full chemical name for Clenbuterol)
is a beta-2-adrenergic agonist, and was initially used to treat asthma in
humans. Other such drugs in this class are albuterol (I believe this is brand
named as Ventolin, the blue inhaler commonly seen), pirbuterol, terbutaline and
salmeterol.
Clenbuterol has two secondary effects that are beneficial to athletes and
bodybuilders. The first is a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it
decreases the rate at which protein is used up in the muscle cells, consequently
causing hypertrophy of muscle cells (with proper training, of course). Clen
accomplishes this by the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors.
3-beta receptors are more abundant in livestock than in humans. This explains
the pronounced anabolic effects on livestock as opposed to humans.
Secondly, Clen has a wonderful thermogenic effect. This is the main reason that
is included in nearly every cutting cycle in some form or fashion. This means
that it slightly raises the body temperature of the person taking it. When the
body's temperature rises it burns fat more productively. When stacked with an
LT-3 hormone such as Cytomel, the body turns into the fiery pits of hell and
burns fat like a stripper scoops up dollar bills on a Friday night.
Clenbuterol is known by the following brand names:
Broncodil, Broncoterol, Cesbron, Clenasma, Clenbuter.Pharmachim, Contrasmina,
Contraspasmina, Monores, Novegam, Oxyflux, Prontovent, Spiropent, Ventolase, and
Ventapulmin It is generally available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets, although syrup,
injectables and "Super Clen" (x20 the normal dosage of normal tabs) are also
somewhat popular.
2. Will Clenbuterol help me if I am on AS?
Yes, particularly at the end of a cycle to keep gains. Bodybuilders use
Clenbuterol after steroid cycles to balance the resulting catabolic phase
following a cycle and to retain strength and muscle mass. Also, as a result of
the higher body temperatures, Clenbuterol magnifies the effect of
anabolic/androgenic steroids taken simultaneously, since the protein processing
is increased. °2
***GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY WARNING*******
(Taken from Clenbuterol.com) "When these agonists bind to beta-2 adrenoceptors,
they activate adenyl cyclase which leads to an increase in the intracellular
concentration of the second messenger cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) and
activation of protein kinase A (PKA). In the tracheobronchial tree, beta-2
agonists, cAMP and PKA inhibit smooth muscle contraction by opening K+ channels
and by down-regulation of myosin light chain kinase activity." °1
In the airways, beta-2 adrenoceptors are not restricted to smooth muscle. They
also occur on epithelium, inflammatory cells, and the vasculature. When
epithelial beta adrenoceptors are activated, cilliary beat frequency increases.
The effect on mucus secretion is less consistent, but the weight of opinion
indicates that beta-2 agonists increase mucocillary clearance. Activation of
beta-2 adrenoceptors on inflammatory cells reduces the release of inflammatory
mediators, and activation of those in vasculature can inhibit the permeability
increase that occurs in inflammation. Thus making it easier to breath.
******* END GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY*************
3. Will Clenbuterol help me burn fat?
Hell yes and no. The yes is stated above--Clen is a strong thermogenic. Diet
and cardio are most important in this process (of course), as is a good weight
training regimen. If one keeps a clean diet, does regular cardio (3-4+ times a
week) then Clenbuterol will greatly assist in fat loss. If one sits around the
couch all day, eats empty calories like sugars and simple carbs, Clenbuterol
will be as useful as a sugar pill.
4. What is the recommended dosage for Clenbuterol?
This has become a matter of controversy among the Bodybuilding community. Due
to erroneous assumptions based on livestock dosing based on the types of
receptors that humans and livestock have , 2 days on-2 days off was thought to
be the proper dosage. Given Clenbuterols half-life of about 10 hours, with a
2-days on/2-days off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol
out of your system for this to be an effective cycle. In actuality, it probably
hasn't even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before one is taking the
drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that
this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization.
2-weeks on/2-weeks off is a better cycle, with ECA stacked in between.
At a dosage of around 5-7 tablets or 100-140 mcg per day for men over a period
of 8-10 weeks. In females, dosages of 80-100 mcg/day are usually sufficient.
For fat loss, clenbuterol seems to stay effective for 3-6 weeks, then its
thermogenic properties seem to subside. This is noticed when the body
temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic properties subside much quicker,
somewhere around 18 days. Also keep in mind that anything over 140 mcg a day is
useless since the beta receptors can only handle so much. °
4. Should I taper Clenbuterol on and off?
Yes. With ANY thermogenic, the side effects can be pronounced and a shock to
the system. To lessen these, here is an optimal pill count for a two-week
cycle. (assuming standard Clen dosages of 20mcg such as Spriopent).
Week 1: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Week 2: 6, 6, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2
Weeks 3 and 4: ECA (Hydroxycut, Xenadrine, Stacker, etc.)
The ECA stacks in between will help prevent against the inevitable crash when
taking Clen.
5. What are some of Clenbuterol's side effects?
Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor
(involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia,
possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea. Note that these
side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days,
despite continuation of the product.
COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS:
Q: Can I substitute Ventolase or another asthma medication for Clenbuterol since
they are the same category?
A: No. Remember that the only reason the FDA banned Clenbuterol was because of
the long half-life. Well approved asthma medications have very short
half-lives. Therefore, the effective dosage period is very low.
Q: Will Clenbuterol give me gyno, masculinization, shrinkage of the boys or any
steroid-like side effect?
A: No. Clenbuterol has no steroid-like side-effects as the mechanisms are
totally different. This also means that you do not have to take Clomid or any
anti-estrogen during a Clenbuterol cycle.
Q: Will Clenbuterol show up on a drug test?
A: Only if you are being tested by a body that bans it. This is generally
international competition such as the Olympics. Employment, doctors physicals,
military does NOT test for this. The NCAA is reputed not to, however this is
unknown. It is best to get a prescription from a doctor for asthma medication.
Ventolin, Albuterol and the like trigger the same tests as Clenbuterol. With a
doctors prescription for one of these similar products, the Clen will be seen
as a false positive.
Q: I've read that the best way to gauge Clenbuterol's effectiveness is to watch
for a rise in temperature. Is this true?
A: Although this will show when Clenbuterol is working, it is not the best way
to gauge effective dosage, as everyone's body will react differently. This
reaction is sometimes independent of an effective dosage and is not a good way
to gauge if your current dose is effective. The above cycle is based on a
175-lb man. If you are below that, you may want to slightly decrease the dosage
if you find the shakes to be unbearable after 4-5 days.
Q: What are "Street" prices?
A: Though your mileage may vary, if you are paying more than US $.50 a pill,
you are seriously getting the shaft.
1.What is Clenbuterol and how does it work?
Simply put, Clenbuterol hydrochloride (the full chemical name for Clenbuterol)
is a beta-2-adrenergic agonist, and was initially used to treat asthma in
humans. Other such drugs in this class are albuterol (I believe this is brand
named as Ventolin, the blue inhaler commonly seen), pirbuterol, terbutaline and
salmeterol.
Clenbuterol has two secondary effects that are beneficial to athletes and
bodybuilders. The first is a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it
decreases the rate at which protein is used up in the muscle cells, consequently
causing hypertrophy of muscle cells (with proper training, of course). Clen
accomplishes this by the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors.
3-beta receptors are more abundant in livestock than in humans. This explains
the pronounced anabolic effects on livestock as opposed to humans.
Secondly, Clen has a wonderful thermogenic effect. This is the main reason that
is included in nearly every cutting cycle in some form or fashion. This means
that it slightly raises the body temperature of the person taking it. When the
body's temperature rises it burns fat more productively. When stacked with an
LT-3 hormone such as Cytomel, the body turns into the fiery pits of hell and
burns fat like a stripper scoops up dollar bills on a Friday night.
Clenbuterol is known by the following brand names:
Broncodil, Broncoterol, Cesbron, Clenasma, Clenbuter.Pharmachim, Contrasmina,
Contraspasmina, Monores, Novegam, Oxyflux, Prontovent, Spiropent, Ventolase, and
Ventapulmin It is generally available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets, although syrup,
injectables and "Super Clen" (x20 the normal dosage of normal tabs) are also
somewhat popular.
2. Will Clenbuterol help me if I am on AS?
Yes, particularly at the end of a cycle to keep gains. Bodybuilders use
Clenbuterol after steroid cycles to balance the resulting catabolic phase
following a cycle and to retain strength and muscle mass. Also, as a result of
the higher body temperatures, Clenbuterol magnifies the effect of
anabolic/androgenic steroids taken simultaneously, since the protein processing
is increased. °2
***GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY WARNING*******
(Taken from Clenbuterol.com) "When these agonists bind to beta-2 adrenoceptors,
they activate adenyl cyclase which leads to an increase in the intracellular
concentration of the second messenger cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) and
activation of protein kinase A (PKA). In the tracheobronchial tree, beta-2
agonists, cAMP and PKA inhibit smooth muscle contraction by opening K+ channels
and by down-regulation of myosin light chain kinase activity." °1
In the airways, beta-2 adrenoceptors are not restricted to smooth muscle. They
also occur on epithelium, inflammatory cells, and the vasculature. When
epithelial beta adrenoceptors are activated, cilliary beat frequency increases.
The effect on mucus secretion is less consistent, but the weight of opinion
indicates that beta-2 agonists increase mucocillary clearance. Activation of
beta-2 adrenoceptors on inflammatory cells reduces the release of inflammatory
mediators, and activation of those in vasculature can inhibit the permeability
increase that occurs in inflammation. Thus making it easier to breath.
******* END GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY*************
3. Will Clenbuterol help me burn fat?
Hell yes and no. The yes is stated above--Clen is a strong thermogenic. Diet
and cardio are most important in this process (of course), as is a good weight
training regimen. If one keeps a clean diet, does regular cardio (3-4+ times a
week) then Clenbuterol will greatly assist in fat loss. If one sits around the
couch all day, eats empty calories like sugars and simple carbs, Clenbuterol
will be as useful as a sugar pill.
4. What is the recommended dosage for Clenbuterol?
This has become a matter of controversy among the Bodybuilding community. Due
to erroneous assumptions based on livestock dosing based on the types of
receptors that humans and livestock have , 2 days on-2 days off was thought to
be the proper dosage. Given Clenbuterols half-life of about 10 hours, with a
2-days on/2-days off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol
out of your system for this to be an effective cycle. In actuality, it probably
hasn't even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before one is taking the
drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that
this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization.
2-weeks on/2-weeks off is a better cycle, with ECA stacked in between.
At a dosage of around 5-7 tablets or 100-140 mcg per day for men over a period
of 8-10 weeks. In females, dosages of 80-100 mcg/day are usually sufficient.
For fat loss, clenbuterol seems to stay effective for 3-6 weeks, then its
thermogenic properties seem to subside. This is noticed when the body
temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic properties subside much quicker,
somewhere around 18 days. Also keep in mind that anything over 140 mcg a day is
useless since the beta receptors can only handle so much. °
4. Should I taper Clenbuterol on and off?
Yes. With ANY thermogenic, the side effects can be pronounced and a shock to
the system. To lessen these, here is an optimal pill count for a two-week
cycle. (assuming standard Clen dosages of 20mcg such as Spriopent).
Week 1: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Week 2: 6, 6, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2
Weeks 3 and 4: ECA (Hydroxycut, Xenadrine, Stacker, etc.)
The ECA stacks in between will help prevent against the inevitable crash when
taking Clen.
5. What are some of Clenbuterol's side effects?
Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor
(involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia,
possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea. Note that these
side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days,
despite continuation of the product.
COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS:
Q: Can I substitute Ventolase or another asthma medication for Clenbuterol since
they are the same category?
A: No. Remember that the only reason the FDA banned Clenbuterol was because of
the long half-life. Well approved asthma medications have very short
half-lives. Therefore, the effective dosage period is very low.
Q: Will Clenbuterol give me gyno, masculinization, shrinkage of the boys or any
steroid-like side effect?
A: No. Clenbuterol has no steroid-like side-effects as the mechanisms are
totally different. This also means that you do not have to take Clomid or any
anti-estrogen during a Clenbuterol cycle.
Q: Will Clenbuterol show up on a drug test?
A: Only if you are being tested by a body that bans it. This is generally
international competition such as the Olympics. Employment, doctors physicals,
military does NOT test for this. The NCAA is reputed not to, however this is
unknown. It is best to get a prescription from a doctor for asthma medication.
Ventolin, Albuterol and the like trigger the same tests as Clenbuterol. With a
doctors prescription for one of these similar products, the Clen will be seen
as a false positive.
Q: I've read that the best way to gauge Clenbuterol's effectiveness is to watch
for a rise in temperature. Is this true?
A: Although this will show when Clenbuterol is working, it is not the best way
to gauge effective dosage, as everyone's body will react differently. This
reaction is sometimes independent of an effective dosage and is not a good way
to gauge if your current dose is effective. The above cycle is based on a
175-lb man. If you are below that, you may want to slightly decrease the dosage
if you find the shakes to be unbearable after 4-5 days.
Q: What are "Street" prices?
A: Though your mileage may vary, if you are paying more than US $.50 a pill,
you are seriously getting the shaft.
H
Harvey Balboner
Guest
Yeah it is very effective, being a lady you will not need too high of a dose.
BLEED GREEN
New member
Yes it makes you jittery the 1st few days as you ramp up, make sure to take your last dose no later than 1pm if you like your sleep!
midwtchamp
Banana
I love the jitters just like a strong cup of coffee hell I am running 150 mcg now and dont get jitters at alll....
sundevil
New member
Hey bro, I posted this over on the other thread but since you are new to clen I want to tell you this. Clen is good -- and the liquid kind is as good as any other (though it tastes nasty). Clen can help you out but one time I goofed up on the dosage of the liquid clen and thought I was gonna die. Migraines, chills, fever, bodyaches, and nausea -- for several days. You can see similar posts on the other current thread. All I'm saying is that clen is powerful stuff so just be careful.
W
WeirdAl
Guest
Clen will most likely make you jittery at first. It's fun trying to write with a pencil at the beginning, lol. But that goes away with time!
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