testoserone magazine/Mag-10

What is/are the opinions of Testoserone magazine and their Bio-Test supplement line?

I was interested in their Mag-10 pro-hormone product and didn't know if anyone has had good or bad experiences with this company and product.

don't know. bumping up maybe somebody else will

I will say as a rule of thumb, almost all prohormones are garbage except for 1 test & 1 AD. I think Mag 10 has 1 test in it, but you could get it much cheaper else where. without paying for the biotest name

I've tried it. I baought 3 bottles at 50 dollars a piece. So far I've used just one bottle for a 2 week cycle and I gained 11 pounds and I kept 9. I'll finish up these bottles and do the same thing Harvey said...I'll just buy the 1-test and 4-test/4-ad powders and put it in some BW or maybe just mix it with my IGF-1...maybe!

Biotest has good products but the prices have reached the breaking point. Their new hyped up version of Mag-10 is 120.00/2week cycle!! I'm not shitting you either! I'm not going to support that bullshit!

Overpriced Crap in my opinion

Biotest

I think they make a reasonable effort to come up with creative and novel products, such as HOT ROX. HOWEVER, with all due respect, their editorial policy on the forum makes me truly wonder about them, because if you attempt a post that even HINTS at a negative comment or even a question about one of their products, they will censor that post and it will never see the light of day. For example, HOT ROX, a novel type of fat burner, which I have tried and rather like, was making me nauseous, so I wrote a post noting I like it, that I think it works, that my body is VERY sensitive to all forms of fat loss products (I don't tolerate ephedra at all, though, strangely, can take Clen), but did anyone else have that experience with the product? They rejected that post as inappropriate. I wrote a very lengthy reply to the moderator about this censorship, and told them if I didn't have problems with the tie-in before I do now, and they didn't have the decency to reply.

As a result, I am all ears for new fat loss products!!

I hope this helps.

if you're going to fork out that much cash for a supplement that yeilds mediocre results at best, why not opt for the "real" thing??

Well, legal issues aside of course....lol

crap-the e-zine just sells biotest-bad infomercial and Bill Roberts is over rated!!!

bigshug said:

if you're going to fork out that much cash for a supplement that yeilds mediocre results at best, why not opt for the "real" thing??

Well, legal issues aside of course....lol

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That's the whole problem with supps. (Not including protein in any packaging here, protein is food). There are a ton of ephedra free products out there now that all seem to work better than ephedra. Well if that was the case then why did we have to wait until ephedra has almost vanished from the landscape before we saw any of these products? All of the ingrediants were out there forver, why if they are so great did it take the supp genies so long to beat ephedra? Because they didn't!

Ephedra is one of the best fat loss supps on the market. But it only subtracts a few lbs at best from a cutter. It real benefit comes from appetite suppression and a workout boost.

So back to all supps. There effects are only marginal (even ephedra) so why reach into the pocket book at spend 100-300 each month that will afford you marginal results at best. Diet 1 week longer. Bulk 2 weeks longer. You'll be richer!

What Harv and Shug said. 1-test and 1-AD (I've never used but have friends who have, and enjoyed their results). BUT...and I'll quote one of those friends...

"Yeah the 1-AD and all those products worked real well, but the real stuff is like 10 times better, and it's almost cheaper!"

Hope this helps.

"supplements"

I don't know if those posts were aimed at me or not, but when it comes to steroid precursor type supplements, I agree completely, just go with the real thing, assuming you are morally and practically able to over come the legal issues. In my case, it is a NON-issue, since I obtain my "real" steroids legally through a physician--and I know well and good how very lucky I am to be able to do so.

NOW, in terms of diet aids and such, there is no "real-McCoy", unless you consider Clenbuterol somehow more "real" than ephedra. Clen is only marginally illegal in the US, anyhow, I've had customs inspect it and let it go through. However, Clen has some very real limitations, especially in terms of its effectiveness over time. I find T3 very effective with it, but again, It's not "illegal". Given my body's very peculiar reactions to Ephedra and Synepherine etc, I am pretty well limited to Clen/T3 and other unusual concoctions out there: OR, as the wise man said, dieting harder and longer. There are REAL problems dieting, though, beyond laziness, such as your body adapting to the lower calorie levels and simply slowing down the metabolism, which is why most people resort to diet aids, to keep the metabolism going while they cut calories. Thus, simply dieting one week longer may not work.

All that said, myself included, we all were raised to solve problems through modern chemestry, and it is hard not to think in those terms. Especially when you look at the amazing results of those who combine hard work with chemistry. Those who rely on chemestry alone, of course, you never see.

Re: "supplements"

Veinlover said:

I don't know if those posts were aimed at me or not, but when it comes to steroid precursor type supplements, I agree completely, just go with the real thing, assuming you are morally and practically able to over come the legal issues. In my case, it is a NON-issue, since I obtain my "real" steroids legally through a physician--and I know well and good how very lucky I am to be able to do so.

NOW, in terms of diet aids and such, there is no "real-McCoy", unless you consider Clenbuterol somehow more "real" than ephedra. Clen is only marginally illegal in the US, anyhow, I've had customs inspect it and let it go through. However, Clen has some very real limitations, especially in terms of its effectiveness over time. I find T3 very effective with it, but again, It's not "illegal". Given my body's very peculiar reactions to Ephedra and Synepherine etc, I am pretty well limited to Clen/T3 and other unusual concoctions out there: OR, as the wise man said, dieting harder and longer. There are REAL problems dieting, though, beyond laziness, such as your body adapting to the lower calorie levels and simply slowing down the metabolism, which is why most people resort to diet aids, to keep the metabolism going while they cut calories. Thus, simply dieting one week longer may not work.

All that said, myself included, we all were raised to solve problems through modern chemestry, and it is hard not to think in those terms. Especially when you look at the amazing results of those who combine hard work with chemistry. Those who rely on chemestry alone, of course, you never see.

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Welcome to the board Veinlover!

I was talking about OTC supplements that supp companies put out in an attempt to rape wallets of the unsuspecting. Clen/T3 and other "diet" aids are drugs and work quite well of course. There are a few supps out there that I think work also. But when I hear a company comes out with something called HotRoks and claims it make Ephedra obsolete then I have issues.

Re: "supplements"

Veinlover said:

I don't know if those posts were aimed at me or not, but when it comes to steroid precursor type supplements, I agree completely, just go with the real thing, assuming you are morally and practically able to over come the legal issues. In my case, it is a NON-issue, since I obtain my "real" steroids legally through a physician--and I know well and good how very lucky I am to be able to do so.

NOW, in terms of diet aids and such, there is no "real-McCoy", unless you consider Clenbuterol somehow more "real" than ephedra. Clen is only marginally illegal in the US, anyhow, I've had customs inspect it and let it go through. However, Clen has some very real limitations, especially in terms of its effectiveness over time. I find T3 very effective with it, but again, It's not "illegal". Given my body's very peculiar reactions to Ephedra and Synepherine etc, I am pretty well limited to Clen/T3 and other unusual concoctions out there: OR, as the wise man said, dieting harder and longer. There are REAL problems dieting, though, beyond laziness, such as your body adapting to the lower calorie levels and simply slowing down the metabolism, which is why most people resort to diet aids, to keep the metabolism going while they cut calories. Thus, simply dieting one week longer may not work.

All that said, myself included, we all were raised to solve problems through modern chemestry, and it is hard not to think in those terms. Especially when you look at the amazing results of those who combine hard work with chemistry. Those who rely on chemestry alone, of course, you never see.

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Bingo!

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It's called a Knife

I gained 10lbs using 1-testosterone in an oil base taken orally 2ml 4 times a day for 6 weeks. It was a Zoe Lab product and was $50.00 a bottle. Like everyone else is saying why spend 3 to $400.00 to get minimal results when there are far superior products to be had.