A story for the Skinny.....

Hey....I was about 132lbs when I first started at the gym...I got up to about 140lbs after about a year and a half of off and on gym time--I took Whey Protein shakes and I did two cycles of Creatine...

I had to stop the creatine cuz it was really doin more harm than good....

I stayed floating between 138 and 142 for a few months and then I decided to try Deca. I researched and asked questions to anyone and everyone that I could trust.

It was my first cycle so I made sum mistakes. First my bottle ended at about my 8th shot rather than the tenth...I then found out it was becuz I was injecting more than I thought-which I then confirmed on here. I also didnt take the eating aspect as seriously as I should had. After a talk with a friend that was in my situation I bulked up to heavy snacks between meals and bigger meals all together....

Im pushing weight that I would have never thought I could do...

SO far The Deca-after a month has got me up to to 154lbs-12lb gain....I know its not much compared to most guyz but its the most Ive everweighed... Now Im eating more everyday-hitting the gym harder and waiting a month then Getting on Test to hopefully get to my ideal weight of 165 lbs or so...

Good for you bro. You didn't stack the Deca with anything??? Yeah, for some of you skinny guys, it just takes eating more, lol. Even if it means not eating so clean, you gotta get you calories and fat, carbs.

Are you going to stack you test with anything? Which test are you going to be taking?

Gotta get protein in too. I failed to mention in my last post. Sorry.

Thanks jay....I took the Deca alone-10 shots. My plan was to wait a month then go Test...but Im not sure about the diff. types yet-I havent researched it yet...

I think we could probably set you up with a nice cycle suggestion. If you're looking to bulk, ponder this:

500 mgs Test Enanthate EW Weeks 1-10(split your injections up twice a week)
400 mgs EQ EW Weeks 1-10(split this up into 2 injections a week)
D-bol 35 mgs ED Weeks 1-5

OR, some people stack their Test with Deca. You've already tried deca so you may want to go this route. Personally I've never done deca so I don't know what kinda results are produced. BUT, the first cycle I mentioned, that was my 1st cycle I ever did. Got great results from it and I think you would enjoy.

Please ask questions. Be sure to also check the "Muscle Chemistry Discussion" too. A lot of great advice in there. Read the drug profiles too.

jaywooly said:

I think we could probably set you up with a nice cycle suggestion. If you're looking to bulk, ponder this:

500 mgs Test Enanthate EW Weeks 1-10(split your injections up twice a week)
400 mgs EQ EW Weeks 1-10(split this up into 2 injections a week)
D-bol 35 mgs ED Weeks 1-5

OR, some people stack their Test with Deca. You've already tried deca so you may want to go this route. Personally I've never done deca so I don't know what kinda results are produced. BUT, the first cycle I mentioned, that was my 1st cycle I ever did. Got great results from it and I think you would enjoy.

Please ask questions. Be sure to also check the "Muscle Chemistry Discussion" too. A lot of great advice in there. Read the drug profiles too.

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Damn I dont want to sound like an irrritating noobie but......These are 3 diff. types U mentioned correct.. I dont know about EQ or D-bol at all. And U were on all of these at the same time...

I guess I need to start reading......

Yes, It's called stacking. The d-bol is used as a "jumpstart" for the cycle as the Test Enanthate and EQ are long acting esters. They take 2-3 weeks to "kick-in". The d-bol takes effect within 2-3 days. You run it for the first 4-5 weeks then stop as by that time the other two steroids will be working. The d-bol is a 17aa steroid so it is liver toxic. You do not want to drink or take excessive amounts of tylenol...or other liver damaging drugs while on D-bol.

Use the search function for any questions you have. If you can not find the answer by searching go ahead and post it. Hope this helps.

BiggerStronger said:

Yes, It's called stacking. The d-bol is used as a "jumpstart" for the cycle as the Test Enanthate and EQ are long acting esters. They take 2-3 weeks to "kick-in". The d-bol takes effect within 2-3 days. You run it for the first 4-5 weeks then stop as by that time the other two steroids will be working. The d-bol is a 17aa steroid so it is liver toxic. You do not want to drink or take excessive amounts of tylenol...or other liver damaging drugs while on D-bol.

Use the search function for any questions you have. If you can not find the answer by searching go ahead and post it. Hope this helps.

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Ahhhh...ok Thank U. But Im trying to keep my risks as minimal as possible--so I dont think Ill be trying such a cycle...

Wut do U think about just doing a cycle of test after a month....Im tryin to keep it simple uknow...

If your a true beginner and ur receptors are clean it will work. After you do it a few times you will have to stack to get the same results

These guys are right on the money. If you only wanna do one steroid at a time I'd just go with some test prop. Go with about 150 mgs EOD (every other day). That is a moderate dose but by all means is not high. By using the prop, you wont get the "bulker" type results, but it will start working almost as fast as the d-bol. And I don't think I've ever heard anyone complaining about test prop.

I really wouldn't worry (too) much about the possible sides. Please keep in mind that most everyone on this board is into their HEALTH way more that looking muscle-bound. I would not recommend such a cycle if I did not think your body could handle it.

Please do keep asking questions. But please do search. We love to help here on MC.

I understand you don't want to take any "risks" by stacking too many anabolics, but the cycle suggested to you is a pretty conservative one.....anyway, deca only cycles equal no performance from your "johnson" in some cases, so that would most certainly be a risk I wouldn't want to take

jaywooly said:

These guys are right on the money. If you only wanna do one steroid at a time I'd just go with some test prop. Go with about 150 mgs EOD (every other day). That is a moderate dose but by all means is not high. By using the prop, you wont get the "bulker" type results, but it will start working almost as fast as the d-bol. And I don't think I've ever heard anyone complaining about test prop.

I really wouldn't worry (too) much about the possible sides. Please keep in mind that most everyone on this board is into their HEALTH way more that looking muscle-bound. I would not recommend such a cycle if I did not think your body could handle it.

Please do keep asking questions. But please do search. We love to help here on MC.

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This is really alot of help guyz....Now at least I know whay type of Test to focus my research on...Test Prop it is..

NOW bigshug U kinda worring me with the DECA "no performance from your johnson comment.....Wut do ya mean exactly???

I you run deca alone, or tren alone it tends to make you not "perform." You won't be able to get it up. That's why people stack test with deca, or test with tren. Well that's not the only reason they stack the two, those particular streoids work very well together. Personally I love Test prop and tren together.

You said you were going to focus your research on prop alone, look into others as well. Like I said, test prop won't get you your desired "bulker" type results.

As shug said, the cycle mentioned above is a conservative one.

OK when U say stack.....do U mean taking one at the same time as the other or does it mean taking one after the other....

Noobie....:disgust:

Ive just finshed reading up on the Test Prop and Im also going to look into the cycle mentioned above...

MP2050 said:

OK when U say stack.....do U mean taking one at the same time as the other or does it mean taking one after the other....

Noobie....:disgust:

Ive just finshed reading up on the Test Prop and Im also going to look into the cycle mentioned above...

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OK neva mind this...I think Iunderstand the stacking now....So then if I were to take a Test Prop after a month off of Deca-that wouldnt be considered stacking-right...

It would just be going from one gear to another...which wouldnt give the same effect-- as if I were to had done them at the same time....??? (Grammer Check...lol)

Ok again...stacking means using more than one steroid at ONE time. I.E.

Test Prop and EQ or

Test Enanthate and Deca

These are considered stacks. Each would be one cycle. You need to research more bro. It seems that you are not picking up these concepts...you should research before using these powerful and potenially dangerous compounds (that is if you do not know what you are putting into your body. I.E. Not knowing the correct procedures to inject, not knowing proper post cycle therapy, not knowing proper dosages, not knowing correct anti-estrogen drugs for your cycle.) It does not seem that you know the basics yet which I would think should be mandatory for every noobie to learn BEFORE they start...not after.

Now stacking is not limited to just two steroids at a time. Some people stack 3, 4 or more steroids at the same time to get the desired results. I would not suggest these higher numbers for noobies.

Again, A Deca only cycle is not a good cycle as you will notice loss of libido, and sexual function. Some people are different and this does not effect them as much as others, but for the large population of users they will experience these side effects at some point. (with a deca only cycle)

BTW Bro, How old are you?

You need to make sure you have enough time off for your system to get back to normal before starting another cycle.1 month probably will not cut it...as the deca stays in your system for at least 3 weeks after your last shot. How much Deca were you doing per week and for how long?

BiggerStronger said:

You need to make sure you have enough time off for your system to get back to normal before starting another cycle.1 month probably will not cut it...as the deca stays in your system for at least 3 weeks after your last shot. How much Deca were you doing per week and for how long?

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Im 23 and I was taking 2 shots of Deca a day -10 in total-5 weeks. I unfourtunately just learned about how Deca should be stretched out for 10 weeks since it doesnt really take affect till the 4th week...

I know I basically just ruined this first cycle by not doing the proper research and just going by word of mouth in the gym...

Let me ask: SInce Ive already completed my Deca only cycle already, Do I have a good chance to experience these difficlties eventhough I do plan on goin to test after a month and half or so....So far I have had no problems at all in the bedroom-in fact I felt even more erect the last few times....

Thanks for the info Bigger...I know I jumped into this to quickly-I just want to make sure I dont make the same mistakes...

read the stickys-use the search function-do your homework and forget what most if not all the guys in the gym tell you!!

MP:

My first cycle was this:

* Test Enanthate @ 500 mg/wk wks 1-10 (this is a long-acting ester, as opposed to Test Prop, a short-acting ester that needs to be injected every other day)
* Deca @ 300 mg/wk 1-9

I began eating big and hitting the compound movements, like deadlifts and squats, which I never did before. I gained a solid 20 pounds and became much stronger than ever before. Don't get me wrong, the gear is a big part of the gaining system, but don't underestimate what a huge diet and 8 hours of solid sleep can get you. Train smart, eat big, sleep big, first and foremost. The gear will work best once these facets of your regimen are in order.

The EQ is good, but you really need to run that for a minimum of 12 weeks. For a first cycle, if 12 weeks is an option for you, you could run this cycle:

*Test Enanthate (500 mg/wk) 1-12
* EQ (500 mg/wk) 1-12

Test Prop, as suggested to you, is a good choice, because it will kick in much faster than Test Enanthate or Cypionate, but the only downside is shooting EOD. If you don't mind the EOD injections, go with the Prop. Mind you, being that Prop has a short half-life, you might want to run that a couple weeks past the EQ and then start you post-cycle therapy with Clomid. If you don't run the Prop a couple weeks past the EQ, you will be without test in your system for some time, which is undesirable.