4-Diol,1,4-Andro,5 Alph-DHT,1-AD are these products worth

KnotHead

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buying or are they just another hyped up bunch of crap??? I have been out of Lifting Weights for years and am starting back. Now I read all these stories about how great these products are, BUT they seem to be ads for the companies making them. SO DOES ANY OF YOU YOUNG BUCKS OR OLD DOGS LIKE ME USE THIS STUFF AND GET RESULTS???? I dont want to spend alot of money on this stuff if it is just HYPE!!!!!! Thanks for any real life info you provide.
 
Compared to real pharmaceutical medications, the supplements are just "hype" as you said. It's especially irritating when the seller compares his products to prescription drugs. What an insult to our intelligence!

That doesn't mean that it's impossible to get results from some of the prohormones. If you don't want to use the real deal for whatever reason you may have, I'd focus on the 4-diol Androspray (transdermal) and the 19-nor diol powder (sublingual). I've always experienced a slight anabolic effect from these products; but as I've mentioned before, I have an extremely receptive physiology. Most people will say you'll get nothing but sides from this stuff.
 
Injectable 1 test cypionate, 4 ad cypionate work very well if you eat a shitload of protein with them and do not over train. I just recieved some 5 ad cypionate that is suppose to act like masteron that I will be adding to my stack. Prohormones are not as good as gear but the gap is closing between them.
 
Please before you say that they are not try them and I do not mean taken orally or that rub on shit, inject them and then make your comment. take 400-600 mg of 1 test weekly and 1500-2000 mg of 4 ad weekly and try that for a month but inject them and then tell me the gap between the 2 are not closing. If you follow a good diet with sensible training and INJECT the prohormones you will get good results.
 
BLEED GREEN said:
For not much more $$ you can have the real thing with real results!


First off gear is a lot cheaper than prohormones but gear is illegal and prohormones are legal. My results with prohormones are just as real as with gear : I went from 224 to 252(where I am right now) using prohormones, so I would say my results are real.
 
To hell with 98 percent of the supplements currently in circulation. I say this for the reasons of money and health. God knows what most of these supplements do to you down the road. Gear has been around for a long time and the effects, both negative and positive, are noted, even in medical journals. What most of these supplements will do to your body years later is still unknown and completely left to hazy speculation. A protein supplement is the only thing I will steadily use- this supplement is one that has been around for years, too. I say nothing can beat real food, training, rest and a sensible gear regimen.
 
pencil said:
First off gear is a lot cheaper than prohormones but gear is illegal and prohormones are legal. My results with prohormones are just as real as with gear : I went from 224 to 252(where I am right now) using prohormones, so I would say my results are real.

I am intrested to know what your cycle consisted of?
 
I second that, to know what kind of cycle you did. You put on 28 pounds with prohormones??? That is better than some gains made on juice! I am skeptical.
 
All the information you are looking for is in my" online cycle journal",. Do I think gear is better hell yes, but prohormones are legal and I can sleep better knowing this. I have a job that if I gained 50 lbs (which I plan on doing) in the course of 6-7 months my job will test me for illegal steroids but they can't do shit when prohormones are the only thing they will find! LOL
 
pencil said:
All the information you are looking for is in my" online cycle journal",. Do I think gear is better hell yes, but prohormones are legal and I can sleep better knowing this. I have a job that if I gained 50 lbs (which I plan on doing) in the course of 6-7 months my job will test me for illegal steroids but they can't do shit when prohormones are the only thing they will find! LOL

If they test you for gear they will use high-resolution mass spectrometry and most pro-hormones leave 12-24 mo detectable Nadrolone like(see deca) residue. You will NOT be able to prove that you used a legal supplement(see Mike Cloud RB-NFL)

Just an fyi...I am in no way saying do this do that however drug testing for muscle enhancing drugs is far from precise.
 
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Thanks,
It used to be easy to choose, now everything you read is full of lies. I think if I am going to cycle the real deal is the best way to go. I am into lifting again after a 8 yr bulking cycle. After I lose 50lbs of fat and get my muscle memory back I am thinking hard about doing a test cycle.
 
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