Got a prob somebody help.

OK I got a infection in my right bicep..I get them alot...I have probally had 5 in the past 6 months..one left me with half my leg...well not really but but destroyed most of the muscel...

It seems like every time I get one it kills the tissue in the muscel..

so I have one in my right bicep and I dont know if it is going to eat up the muscle, because the infection is just from me not hitting it deep enough in the muscle belly..I only had a 1/2 inch pin...Has anybody else got a bad reaction from not going deep enough..I know it can cause problems....

AND is it normal for the infection to cause muscle waisting...

also should I try and maybe rub the area to try and get the oil to disperse because that is usually what the problem is with not going deep enough the oil just sits on the muscle and does not absorbe quick enough...


also I know that the gear it was human grade sustanon and I have used it before with no problems....thanks.

1st and foremost make sure you get good and deep in the muscle , this is your a-1 main problem. get bigger pins gearbox has plenty of sizes to suite you. also you can warm the gear a little , and you can rub the site as well. but you gotta gotta gotta make sure you get deep enough or your asking for an abcess.

sounds like its time to have some cleaner habits my bro...after the 1st one i would change my ways...after this one...mayb u should about it man...christ....if you dont got what u need...GET IT!! and if you cant get it...DONT START and know what you are doing....tell us more of the muscle wasting u are talking about?

Don't know what your procedure is, but I'll share mine in the event that you need some hygenic adjustments......

First off, if you're injecting in the bathroom it's usually OK as long as you're not "dropping a deuce" and flushing - the spray from the commode will get on EVERYTHING and increase the risk of infection.

I always wash my hands first with an antibacterial soap, then lay out all my "stuff".....
Clean the tops of your vials with an alcohol swab.
If you're pulling with a different gauge needle, clean it with an alcohol swab.
Just to be anal, I usually have Purell anti-bacterial hand cleanser that I use just before injecting, too
After switching to the gauge needle you plan to inject with, clean it with an alcohol swab.
Inject with at LEAST a 1" needle, I do and I bury it when doing biceps injects
When pulling out the needle post inject, cover the inject site IMMEDIATELY with an alcohol swab and massage vigorously.
I also leave the swab on, and put a band-aid over that.

yeah, I probably go overboard but the cost of a few alcohol swabs ( I use two during injections) and band-aids is far outweighed by my fear of having an infection deep in my muscle

What do you guys think I am...so guy living in some shit filled apartment with flies all over the place and trash up to the roof...LOL...

I am very clean...My dad is a doc and when I firsted started he did all my shots so that when I STARTED to do my own I would know what to do....

My first infection was due to my abuse to my quads...I was getting ready for a show and I WAS hitting them every day with 3cc's...My legs could take em so I figured there would be no problem...well I thought wrong..On may 9th last year I hit them with 2 cc's of enanthate and woke up in the middle of the night with my leg the size of a beach ball.....the pressure was so bad it destroyed some of my nerves....well atlest that is whay the doc told me....I have had a few since then and it is just muscel waisting....it get real swollen and red and then I will take some penecillin and the swelling will turn into like a stress ball (the way they fell) real gooey but kind of strong...I could push in on my ass and it would leave a indention in the muscel for like 10 seconds and then slowly come back out....

it is not from being dirty or anything it is just the amount of times I hit one area in a set amount of time...when I was doing quad injects I had never had anybody tell me not to hit them same spot more than 2 times a week....

now for the bicep- it is just due to not getting deep enough....

the same thing happened to my triceps....I did both my triceps one day and when I woke up the next morning I had a infection in one tri and the other was fine...well the left try was a different look to it now....and that was due to missing the tricep and going in between the front and back head......

it is just the muscel waisting that bothers me......My leg is still fucked from that shit and it was like 5 months ago....but that is a nerve problem.....

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I don't know what to tell ya bro. You already know what the problem is: too much, too often.

If I were you I would stop completely to give your muscle some time to heal, but if you can't for whatever reason then at least switch to longer ester steroids.

You have to think about your health first. Do you want to be the guy that used to be huge but now has an amputated arm or leg because of a serious infection that could have been prevented?

I'm sure the answer is no.

You seem to know the answers to the problem in your posts too.
Not trying to be critical ...but keepin it Real.....
From a third party point of view it sounds Baffling that you want to continue this practice when you have had so many problems that would be very serious if it were happening to me. As I'm sure it is to you.

I've asked people to front me some pins they used just to find out that they were way to short ( 1/2" in legs!!), However they never got an abcess or infection. Thats there body!!!

Maybe your body is just prone to getting these infections much easier than others.We're all different.

Sounds like its time to cool off, or get back to basics...like the long esters mentioned earlier and going for the 1 1/2"pins in the glutes atleast to give yourself/health a rest from infections and muscle wasting.
We all would like to have you at MC Healthy rather than hearing that you get another infection.

Think about it Bro.....

I have to agree to much to often. Heres another trick you might wanna try. I warm the solution and use a .22 micron filter to fill my syringe. then I remove it and use a clean needle to inject. if you use proper cleaning of the vial and inject spot you will be ok as for infections.
My friend had one similiar and had to have it removed 4 days before his comp sad but true.
Just because it says human grade doesnt mean its totally pure!
If it came from overseas then who tests its prity not the FDA.
You can buy the filters in bulk it gets somewhat expensive but not worth the trouble you are having now.

"tis strange- but true;for truth is always strange;stranger than fiction." Lord Byron

I doubt that I am more prone to getting infections than others....i do stay on most of the year but that is because I compete and I am bulking for the Junior Nationals right now.....This is my choice I know...I also know that there will be some baggage with this decision...but to say some people are more prone to infections than others is off....unless your body is sick or your immune system is down or weak....Which mine may be since I am always on but I have regular check ups and I am healthy and my BP is not high.....That would be one of the first sympotons that something is wrong....

I understand what you guys are saying and I would be saying the same thing if someone else where to type in what I did....One just has to assume that they are using dirty procedures...

But I am not...and for me to get a infection form a certain kind of gear after I have been using it for a while is telling me something and it is not that the gear is bad....(I had used the gear with no problems before)

thanks for the replies.....

Just to be safe, send me all your gear and I'll try it out....y'know, just to see if it's 'dirty' or not

So is it possible for you to cut down on injection volume by using longer ester steroids?

Say 400-500mg/ml Test Enanth, Tren enanthate, etc.

What other gear are you using right now?...maybe we can make some changes to it to keep the volumes a lot lower.

bigshug i will send you my bottle of enanthate that made me sick and gave me a fever..this did not happen just once but 3 times...call me stupid but I was not going to crash so I kept using it till I got more....

if you want just so you can know for your self.....your loss not mine...

LOL..Its funny how some gear cannot be dirty and some can. I had a problem with some I had been using for years as well, I got laxed and stopped filtering it ahd checking it. Well, lets just say I was fuckingembarassing to tell the fine ass nurse what was wrong and listen to her laugh under her breath.

ALWAYS assume its dirty or partial. Nothing in gear is ever clean in my opinion, since I have had that mindset I have never had a problem. It sounds as if you are accepting responsibility for what is going on, thats good, just learn from the mistakes if it dont cost you more that what you bargained for.

Good luck

the thing bad about high volume is it cause scar tissue when jammed into the muscel....well the same problem will happen when using high mg/ml...Like the 500mg enanthate...which I was using...the ba content in the shit was way to high....ba will cause lots of scar tissue....so it is a lose lose situation.....

also you guys are saying to switch out the short esters with long esters...well I did...I was only using short esters for the comp....but also with my long ester like the cyp I am using right now I still shot eod....I use a gram a week and I hit 250 eod...so it is the same thing as using the short esters....the reason I do this is to keep my levels high and saturated with out much drop.....

Some of you on here using longer ester should try this....it helps with the zits and keeps you constant.....

so there is no difference for me with the short esters and long esters....

I appreciate the help you guys have offered..that is why I stay on the boards...for the helpful information....

I am going to keep using and competiting (i want to go to the top) I know some say yeay what ever but I have time on my side being only 19 and being 240lbs and staying in the 10%bf range....

I have genetics and I love the sport more than anything.....

thanks for the advice guys....

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