As I mentioned b-4 I have always been skinny. Now that I need to cut I am not sure how to do this. I am currently eating alomost no carbs for 3 weeks now. I have lost 1 inch from my waist. Does anyone have a high protein, no card diet that will help me keep as much muscle as possible. Also shuld I take creatine and glutamine?
need some more help with my diet
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midwtchamp
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EAT LIKE AN ANIMAL!!!
alpineslide
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Winter's coming...it's bulking season. Wait until spring to cut.
BLEED GREEN
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What does your current diet consist of as far as protein,carbs, fats and cals?
VA MadDog
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No carbs can be no good
No or very low carbs are usually not a good recipe for keeping muscle mass. A high protein/fat no carb diet can be helpful in losing weight and bf, but you will also lose muscle along with the fat loss.
Give us more info on what your current diet plan is and we can try to offer suggestions.
No or very low carbs are usually not a good recipe for keeping muscle mass. A high protein/fat no carb diet can be helpful in losing weight and bf, but you will also lose muscle along with the fat loss.
Give us more info on what your current diet plan is and we can try to offer suggestions.
agree with va maddog. if your not going to use an a.s. to maintain your muscle i said maintain not add, while dieting down you need to reconsider the no carb crap. Carbs are a big part of the muscle glucose and the insulin (the most anabolic substance) utilizes carbs to shuttle your protein to your muscle along with carbs to repair muscle damage (from working out) and replace muscle glucose(from working out) THe end
LA
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Without knowing too many details...
1. Creatine- Yes, Glutamine- No (waste of $)
2. Use some MCT before working out, don't use at any other time during the day.
3. Eat 95% of your carbs immediately following your workout.
4. Plan carbup days! No less than every 3 days, no more than every 7. You can even do a carbup meal on Wed and then carbup on Sat.
Post some more details and myself and others can give you better advise (macro numbers, calories, BF%, BF goal, current weight, weight when u started)
Good Luck- LA
1. Creatine- Yes, Glutamine- No (waste of $)
2. Use some MCT before working out, don't use at any other time during the day.
3. Eat 95% of your carbs immediately following your workout.
4. Plan carbup days! No less than every 3 days, no more than every 7. You can even do a carbup meal on Wed and then carbup on Sat.
Post some more details and myself and others can give you better advise (macro numbers, calories, BF%, BF goal, current weight, weight when u started)
Good Luck- LA
midwtchamp
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No hunny just ask Rad how I eat or come spend a day w/me when I am putting on wt.!!!!chelle said:
BLEED GREEN
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Agreed!LA said:
VA MadDog
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Why?
Why do you guys say yes to creatine and no to glutamine?
The studies on creatine seem to be mixed. Some show no long term benefit other than as an aid to drawing carbs, water and glycogen into the muscle as when carb loading. Can you point me to any studies that show long term positive benefits? Many creatine products out there include more sugar than creatine.
I have read positive things regarding glutamine use. Doesn't glutamine use post workout have an anticatabolic effect by helping to replenish a key amino? Perhaps this is more important for a natty BBer who has to use other supplements to keep catabolism to a minimum.
I'd like to better understand your thoughts.
Why do you guys say yes to creatine and no to glutamine?
The studies on creatine seem to be mixed. Some show no long term benefit other than as an aid to drawing carbs, water and glycogen into the muscle as when carb loading. Can you point me to any studies that show long term positive benefits? Many creatine products out there include more sugar than creatine.
I have read positive things regarding glutamine use. Doesn't glutamine use post workout have an anticatabolic effect by helping to replenish a key amino? Perhaps this is more important for a natty BBer who has to use other supplements to keep catabolism to a minimum.
I'd like to better understand your thoughts.
okay! here are my stats. 5 11' 197-200lbs bf 12-14%? this is what I ate yesterday, tell me what I should change.
9am 3 egg whites and a Muscle Milk protein shake
11am 2 tuna sandwitches and some water
12pm 1 chicken patty and small salad + diet root beer
1:30pm small amount of shrimp
2:45pm steak, water
4pm hambureger patty and chicken patty, water
6
m protein shake and very small snack.
6:30 to 8pm at the gym
8:15 protein shake + what ever is left over form las night
9:45 protein shake when possible
9am 3 egg whites and a Muscle Milk protein shake
11am 2 tuna sandwitches and some water
12pm 1 chicken patty and small salad + diet root beer
1:30pm small amount of shrimp
2:45pm steak, water
4pm hambureger patty and chicken patty, water
6
m protein shake and very small snack.6:30 to 8pm at the gym
8:15 protein shake + what ever is left over form las night
9:45 protein shake when possible
VA MadDog
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Some suggestions
As you did not list quantities (i.e. ounces, grams, etc.) it is hard to estimate what your total kcals/day are or what your percentage of Protein/Fat/Carbs are. It does look like you are heavy on protein and light on carbs. There is a huge difference between various brands of protein powder, so that is another variable. I can't estimate your fat intake as that would depend on the protein brand that you use, any sauces/dressings and the type of meats.
To really develop a detailed diet plan you have to establish what your base line is. You can use a web site like fitday to plug in what you are consuming and print out a summary of your total calories and your macronutrient percentages.
You will need to become a nutritional lable reader for all of your foods. That is where you get the details and how you can best compare between alternatives. I'm going to recommend a shift to more real protein sources, and less from powder. I would suggest:
For meal 1 - Go to six eggs with only two yokes. Add in 1/2 cup of plain oatmeal. For flavor you can stir in a scoop of protein powder. You can also add a 4-6 oz burger patty from lean ground beef.
Tuna for meal two is fine, you can add in some good carbs by making it a large tuna salad. Almost any green leafy vegtables are good carbs and have many necessary vitamins and minerals included. Use a low fat/low carb dressing.
Meal three can be 8-10 oz of real protein from chicken breast, fish, lean beef or turkey. Another salad (spinich is also great) is fine or choose a cup of broccoli or green beans. A grapefruit or a fresh peach is also fine. Another good carb source would be long grain brown rice - not processed white rice. Qty can be 1\2 to 3/4 cup.
Meals 4 and five can be similar - 8-10 oz of real protein plus a bowl of veggies or a large salad. If for time reasons you need to use a protein drink for one of these that would be ok.
Your meal six is after you work out so it should include some carbs. A product similar to Beverly International's Mass Maker is suitable. It is a blend of fast and slow acting carbs. Some protein here is also fine. A shake works well.
I've tried to give you some ideas to consider. This is not meant to be a detailed daily diet, but you can use the info to put something together. If you want some links to more detailed diet suggestions send me a PM.
You are doing a good job of eating frequently, with smaller meals. That keeps your metabolism going and allows your body to process and use the food effeciently. Once you put a new plan together and figure out the calories and percentages you can adjust it as needed based on the results that you see. Most any new diet or significant diet change takes about three weeks to have an impact. Good luck!
As you did not list quantities (i.e. ounces, grams, etc.) it is hard to estimate what your total kcals/day are or what your percentage of Protein/Fat/Carbs are. It does look like you are heavy on protein and light on carbs. There is a huge difference between various brands of protein powder, so that is another variable. I can't estimate your fat intake as that would depend on the protein brand that you use, any sauces/dressings and the type of meats.
To really develop a detailed diet plan you have to establish what your base line is. You can use a web site like fitday to plug in what you are consuming and print out a summary of your total calories and your macronutrient percentages.
You will need to become a nutritional lable reader for all of your foods. That is where you get the details and how you can best compare between alternatives. I'm going to recommend a shift to more real protein sources, and less from powder. I would suggest:
For meal 1 - Go to six eggs with only two yokes. Add in 1/2 cup of plain oatmeal. For flavor you can stir in a scoop of protein powder. You can also add a 4-6 oz burger patty from lean ground beef.
Tuna for meal two is fine, you can add in some good carbs by making it a large tuna salad. Almost any green leafy vegtables are good carbs and have many necessary vitamins and minerals included. Use a low fat/low carb dressing.
Meal three can be 8-10 oz of real protein from chicken breast, fish, lean beef or turkey. Another salad (spinich is also great) is fine or choose a cup of broccoli or green beans. A grapefruit or a fresh peach is also fine. Another good carb source would be long grain brown rice - not processed white rice. Qty can be 1\2 to 3/4 cup.
Meals 4 and five can be similar - 8-10 oz of real protein plus a bowl of veggies or a large salad. If for time reasons you need to use a protein drink for one of these that would be ok.
Your meal six is after you work out so it should include some carbs. A product similar to Beverly International's Mass Maker is suitable. It is a blend of fast and slow acting carbs. Some protein here is also fine. A shake works well.
I've tried to give you some ideas to consider. This is not meant to be a detailed daily diet, but you can use the info to put something together. If you want some links to more detailed diet suggestions send me a PM.
You are doing a good job of eating frequently, with smaller meals. That keeps your metabolism going and allows your body to process and use the food effeciently. Once you put a new plan together and figure out the calories and percentages you can adjust it as needed based on the results that you see. Most any new diet or significant diet change takes about three weeks to have an impact. Good luck!
LA
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Re: Why?
Studies? Studies? We don't need no stinken studies! But I'll throw this at ya, guess where creatine is found mainly (in real food)? Red meat! Guess what most people cutting take almost completely out of their diets? Red meat!
Look up the studies on glutamine. I'll bet in all of them the glutamine was administered via IV- not orally! Glutamine is worthless orally, unless you are selling it.
For one always buy creatine solo not mixed in with sugar.VA MadDog said:
Studies? Studies? We don't need no stinken studies! But I'll throw this at ya, guess where creatine is found mainly (in real food)? Red meat! Guess what most people cutting take almost completely out of their diets? Red meat!
Look up the studies on glutamine. I'll bet in all of them the glutamine was administered via IV- not orally! Glutamine is worthless orally, unless you are selling it.
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