Infection help?

evilgoach · Dec 7, 2003

I'm not sure if I have an infection on not. I injected eql prop last wed. and I don't remember ever being that sore from and injection, I could barely walk. The soreness started out high at the injection site and now my whole quad is sore to the point that it's painful to bend my leg. It's some what warm and slightly red and splochly about 4" above my knee cap, which is no where near where I injected. In fact I have no pain at the injection site. I had some weird flu like simptoms yesterday morning which quickly vanished cant tell if it was a hang over or what. I feel fine today but, my quad is still very tender. There is no hard knot rather my whole quad is really sore and tender. Is this an infection or just a bad shot? Please help I'm trippin.

nlarge · Dec 7, 2003

sounds like infection.. sometimes it goes away on its own, but you may want to get some antibiotics for it

dumbell78 · Dec 8, 2003

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saturn · Dec 8, 2003

Sounds like you have some dirty gear. If the pain hasn't gone away go get it checked out.

LabRat · Dec 8, 2003

wow I had same thing long ago had to go to emergency room cut a 2 inch incision remove abscess and let drain.
They could not stitch it together so it could drain left one hell of a scar on my glute.

my ass

Anadrol · Dec 8, 2003

if you go see a doc, what r u gonna say to him then??

LabRat · Dec 8, 2003

tell him bug bite, he don't need details other than infected he might assume but wont be sure.
Don't want that mark on medical history may haunt ya later.

if you have to maybe tell him you had been using injectable b-12 from friend for appetite.

Anadrol · Dec 8, 2003

exactly, but what do u mean with b-12 from friend for appetite??

Tnx btw

GetnBigr · Dec 8, 2003

tell the doc your helping your grandpa rebuild the chicken coupe, and the damn skinny wire jabbed you, you didn't think anything of it and now your leg is killing you.

Anadrol · Dec 8, 2003

ok,, btw... what happens if u inject in a vein?? i've heard that u could die, but also that u just get dizzy...

also can u inject into a bloodvessel ?? if what happens then

supersport · Dec 9, 2003

Anadrol said:
ok,, btw... what happens if u inject in a vein?? i've heard that u could die, but also that u just get dizzy...

also can u inject into a bloodvessel ?? if what happens then

A vein is a blood vessel-when you stick the pin in pull back on the plunger-IF YOU SEE BLOOD PULLING UP INTO THE SYRINGE AS YOU PULL BACK ON THE PLUNGER THEN YOU ARE IN A VEIN-pull out the dart-yes blood is gonna spew so be ready with some gauze or a rag-clean yourself up and try again in another location.Make sure your guaze or rag is sterile-put alcohol or h2o2 on the rag before wiping it clean. If you pull up on the plunger and there is no blood everything is good-if you pull the dart out AFTER the injection and blood goes everywhere this means you PASSED THROUGH A VEIN-no harm done, it will just freak you out a little. i am sure in my early years I injected directly in a vein several times and i had no problem- but this does not mean you will not have a problem-i was using test then. i have injected tren that had to have gotten directly in a vein as i immediately started coughing-thought i was going to hack up a lung or something. Make sure you aspirate and pull back on that plunger before injecting!!!!!!

supersport · Dec 9, 2003

Anadrol said:
ok,, btw... what happens if u inject in a vein?? i've heard that u could die, but also that u just get dizzy...

also can u inject into a bloodvessel ?? if what happens then

A vein is a blood vessel. When you stick the dart in you need to pull back on the plunger -just a little-and see if there is any blood entering the syringe casing. If no blood, then you are good to go. If there is blood-gently pull out the dart and have a sterile towel/rag/tissue ready for the blood that will come-it will look like the Exxon Valdez spill...LMAO-just kiddin-but be ready. Now if you put the dart in and pull back on the plunger and there is no blood and you inject product and pull the dart out and blood goes everywhere then that means you PASSED THROUGH A VEIN-no big deal but the blood pouring out of you might freak ya a little...I am sure in my early years I injected into a vein(I have taken probably 1000 or more hits) and i never had a problem- but that doesnot mean you will not have a problem-i was using test then. I did use tren recently where immediately after injection I had a hell of a coughing fit-thought i was going to hack up a lung-I beleive I hit a vein(maybe a partial hit) it subsided in a minute or two....

supersport · Dec 9, 2003

sorry for the double post-thought i lost the first one, wtf.....

Anadrol · Dec 10, 2003

thanks

uppercut · Dec 10, 2003

I have a swollen knot each and every time I inject. Sometimes it’s real bad like you described others not so bad. It is however getting better the more I inject. I caulk it up as, if it was easy and comfortable everyone would be doing it.

supersport · Dec 10, 2003

uppercut said:
I have a swollen knot each and every time I inject.

What are you injecting? Are you using at least a 1 inch pin?

evilgoach · Dec 11, 2003

First off thanks for helping a bro out. I have to say for the record and I hope I can help anyone else out there with the same issue: This was a very strange infection, there was no absess and the pain and no sickness really. There was very similar to pain you get from injecting 300mgs of tt prop in the middle of your quad. You guys who have used that gear know what I'm talking about. Okay so it was also weird because the infection was definetly in my muscle but, I never would have known it if I hadn't been on these boards reading for the past couple of years. That is the part that scares me, that and the fact that the dr told me that it could have been very dangerous had the infection began to spread to other parts of my body, dangerous like death of a massive bacterial infection. You know Jim Henson the muppet man? That's how he bought it. Anyway not a scare tactic just a fact. Just because you don't have an abcess it doesn't mean you aren't infected.

The gear I am using is EQL prop, I don't attribute my infection to gear because during the time where I thought this pain was simply from high ba content, I took another injection with no issues, since then I've had two more, no problems. I must have been dirty at the inject site. I use a 1.5 in pin and go 90% in the quad. I'm also allergic to penicilin so I would really have be f'd if I had waited any longer. Fortunatly he gave me some ..... "Getz" something anyway it's not in the same family as penicilin and I showed Improvement the first day. I'm fired up I can go lift tomorrow. Thanks again bros.

Evil out.

winnie · Dec 11, 2003

glad to hear that you got it under control!

supersport · Dec 11, 2003

evilgoach said:
You know Jim Henson the muppet man? That's how he bought it. Anyway not a scare tactic just a fact. Just because you don't have an abcess it doesn't mean you aren't infected.

The Bacterial infection that killed Henson-a particulary virulent strain of group A Streptococcus causes a toxic shock-like syndrome (TSLS) that can kill otherwise healthy people in a matter of hours of the onset of symptoms. This lethal bacteria, which in 1990 when Henson died, responded to no antibiotics and I do not know if a current antibiotic is available today. This is an organism that causes strep throat in kids, but for some reason kills adults very quickly.
What killed Henson so quickly was the virulent TOXIN by the Stroptococcus A and not the organism itself. So even if there was an antibiotic present to kill the organism, it is likely that the toxin it produced would have killed Henson anyway,since antibiotics do not clear toxins.
Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, which is practiced by 50-60 MD's in the US (it is practiced by Dr. Edelson at Yale U. under the name Photopheresis and is used to treat Cutaneous T-cell Lymphoma-a very rare cancer) will not only destroy the Strep A organism immediately but clears all organic toxins produced by such organisms, snakebites, bee stings, etc. The process costs about 135.00 dollars and is very simple. About 180ml of whole blood is extracted from the patient and run through a photoluminescent device that exposes the blood to UVA rays. The blood is returned to the patient and the immune system is "charged" to destroy any and all pathogens. The oxygen combining power of the blood is increased(for up to a month after treatment), steriods are activated, various enzyme systems are stimulated among many other beneficial things. It has been proposed that an"autogenous vaccine" is created and there is an influx of null cells produced, which have no antigen, and thus seek out any and all pathogens whether they are viral, bacterial, cancerous, or fungal. I have used it many times for treatment of flu, colds, allergies and it is without a doubt the revolutionary therapy of the age. it was discovered in 1928 by one Emmet K. Knott in seattle. He used it on women how had serious infection(bacterial) from "back alley "abortions. Some women did not respond to the sulfa drugs, had temperatures of up to 108-109 degrees and were written of as hopeless and terminal. After 1 and in some cases 2 exposures to UBI the women had there fevers break and were symptom free in 24-48 hours,completely healthy. There are no sides at all, has been thoughly tested on literally thousands of patients surrering from cancer,flu,allergies,rhumatism,polio,tuberculosis,malaria,blood poisoning, AIDS,all viral episodes,snakebite-virtually all infectious disease and works in 100 percent of all cases. It is so effective in AIDS in restoring immune function that supposedly an MD is starting a phase 1 FDA trial and DOES NOT EVEN WANT TO USE A CONTROL GROUP. If the hospital that Henson went to had used UBI (aka-photoluminescence,hemo irradiation,photo dymanic therapy) he would have survived his bacterial infection with no question.
If you make the decision to inject gear i think it would be prudent to locate an MD in your area that uses UBI. A case like Henson experienced is for real, and could happen to anybody with or without tainted gear.Usually after instituting UBI the doc will run a drip of h2o2-hydrogen peroxide which creates an even more profound response. H2o2 reacts with catalase and cyto-chrome c, 2 enzymes, that split h2o2 into h2o(water) and singlet oxygen. Singlet oxygen is what our immune system uses(from granulocytes) to oxidize pathogens. pathogens are anerobic(hate oxygen) and are killed immediately by O. If anyone is interested in locating an MD you can let me know-I have a list available in the US and international also.

supersport · Dec 11, 2003

Typo to correct-in most clinics that use UBI the ultraviolet ray used is UVC, not UVA. UVC has much more germicicidal strength than does UVA, but UVA seems to be more effective in cancer patients. Edelson uses UVA at Yale, but his process is very intricate and expensive as he filters white bllod cells out of whole blood and irradiates them only. It should be noted that in every case whole blood is just fine, much cheaper, adminastered much more easily that Edelsons version. It is speculated Edelson created this technique,though effective, to acquire a patent(which he did).

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