Coming off an extended cycle

SeanC1123

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I've been on for 23 weeks from precontest until now, two months later. I need some advice for keeping my gains. Of course, I will be using clomid. I don'thave HCG and can't get it so it's out of the question. I do have nolvadex as well. Also possibly clen.

So, what supplements should I use, how should I eat and how should I train? I won't be able to hit the gym for about a week, is this going to affect anything? My cycle ends on this Friday, so two weeks from then I will be starting clomid.

I will also have insulin and know how to use it. Is it a good idea to use insulin during PCT?

Sean
 
You can use creatine. Take shit load of protein to maintain gain. You can also use M1T from lab-corp for 2-4 weeks. I love that shit and am oing to buy more!
 
yeah i have M1T

but it shuts down natural test production does it not

so thte question is WHEN should I use it? I have enough to use it at 20mg for 8 weeks straight but I'm leaning towards doing 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off then 2 weeks back on.

Thoughts?
 
well , i had posted this on vipbb in reply to someone who had been on for 11 months , will just post it here again , adjust it to suit ur needs bro :

1)ok , now , give urself 4 weeks to come off ,we will not let androgen levels drop suddenly , thats no good.
week 1 : 100 mg prop everyday .
week 2 : 100 mg prop eod .
week 3 : 100 mg prop eod .
week 4 : 50 mg prop eod .
2)growth hormone : u said ure using 4 iu , so keep doing the same , continue this post cycle for 50 days atleast . 2 iu pre workout and 2 iu before bed .
3)50 mg proviron everyday for the whole 4 weeks .
4)14 days out :
1 mg arimidex .
1000 mg phosphatidylserine .
5 gms vit c per day .
1000 mg methoxyisoflavone.
guggul 25 mg per 50 lbs of bodyweight( to keep t4 to t3 conversion normal).
we bring estrogen levels normal or below normal (arimi along with the proviron will accomplish this) , the PS , vit c and methoxyisoflavone are to control cortisol , cortisol and estrogen become 2 very important factors to deal with when it comes to post cycle .
5)starting monday (first day of week 3) - 3000/3000/2000/2000 iu hcg shots,each shot spaced 3 days apart .
6)post cycle :
uve been on for a long time , give urself 50-60 days to get back to close to normal .
here's what u can do .
a)gh 4 iu(2 iu pre workout and 2 iu before bed).
b)insulin 5 iu (no higher) upon waking and post workout ( on workout days only) .
c)pentoxiflylline(trental)- 400 mg before bed for 4 weeks(available from teamliferesearch.com i think).
d)continue the phosphatidylserine , vit c and methoxyisoflavone,guggul at the above doses .
e)nolvadex 20 mg and clomid 100 mg for 4 weeks .
for 4 more weeks , nolvadex 10 mg and clomid 50 mg .
f)creatine 5 gms twice a day(upon waking and post workout along with the post slin shots) . glutamine around 30 gms a day .
6)use plenty of anti oxidants . :) .

logic behind using pentoxifylline is , it lowers TNF alpha , thus muscle wasting is reduced . methoxyisoflavone has been shown to reduce collagen protein breakdown and also increase calcium uptake from the gut .
also , post cycle , insulin and gh both help lh recovery , while allowing a highly anabolic environment , infact , with what u have here , dont be surprised to gain some muscle :) , either way , just take out all forced reps , negatives , etc , up protein to atleast 2 gms per lb , keep fat percentage in ur diet high ( like 30 % or so) . i think this should do , lol , couldve explained a lot more , but i think above will do .

hope i helped .
 
LOL Raybravo your information is no doubt good but you can't apply it to me since I don't have access nor am I on some of the stuff listed in there. So, while the information is helpful to some it's not very helpful for me.

Thanks though

anybody else?
 
I think M1T just get converted to test in yur body and unlike roid which suppress your body natural test production. M1T is legal and people stack it with andro so in theory it can be used without PCT therapy.
I'm just going to use it 4 weeks straight. Not sure if 2 weeks on/off work any better.
 
SeanC1123 said:
LOL Raybravo your information is no doubt good but you can't apply it to me since I don't have access nor am I on some of the stuff listed in there. So, while the information is helpful to some it's not very helpful for me.

Thanks though

anybody else?
well , most of the stuff given in there is legal , either way , i'll let someone else help u out .
 
I don't have access to GH and might not be able to use insulin given the fact that I'll be out of the country

but where can I find the other stuff (like guggul, methoxyisoflavone, etc)
 
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