Liquid Creatine Serum
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Honestly I think creatine serum is crap and a waste of money. Use the powder version...cheap and proven to work.
I have also heard that putting creatine in any liquid degrades the creatine rapidly and makes it pretty much useless if kept in liquid for an extended period of time. I don't know if they put something in it to make it not degrade but still IMO its a waste of money.
I have also heard that putting creatine in any liquid degrades the creatine rapidly and makes it pretty much useless if kept in liquid for an extended period of time. I don't know if they put something in it to make it not degrade but still IMO its a waste of money.
I actually like the serum...never got any results out of the powder and got some slight results out of the serum.
Having said that, I've also attached some great creatine info that was posted by BIGDAVE back in the day...anyone know what ever happened to BIGDAVE???
-- Posted by BIG DAVE on 10:32 pm on Aug. 15, 2001 YES, WE ALL TAKE CREATINE, WELL, MOST OF US, AND WE ALL KNOW IT SEEMS TO HELP, BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING IN OUR BODIES WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS SUPPLEMENT?-THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IN CHAT RECENTLY, ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF CREATINE. THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION ON THIS ISSUE, SO I THOUGHT ID POST THIS.-PREZ, MATT, AND WHOEVER ELSE CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS INFO-THIS IS FOR YOU.-B.D. Creatine monohydrate is a supplement used by many exercise enthusiasts such as bodybuilders, weight lifters and sprinters. Numerous studies and research have suggested that creatine monohydrate (CM) supplementation has had positive effects on the subjects using it. Its use as an ergogenic aid is very promising. In the following paragraphs, you will learn what the current research is saying and what the recommendations for its use as an ergogenic aid are. What Is Creatine Monohydrate? Creatine is a metabolite of the ATP-CP energy system of your body. It serves as an energy reserve in muscle cells. Creatine is found in the body and is synthesized in the liver and the pancreas by the amino acids arginine, glycine and methionine. It is also found in red meat, but in low concentrations. Two pounds of uncooked red meat contains only four grams of creatine and cooking the meat lowers the creatine level even more. How Does CM Work? CM is a precursor to creatine phosphate (CP). Creatine phosphate does not work as a supplement (unless injected intramuscularly) because it would be broken down into amino acids long before it reaches muscle tissue. Thus, by taking CM, CP levels in muscle tissue is maximized, and more work can be performed. In order to understand how CM works, we must first have an understanding on how the energy systems of the body work. When you need to perform work, the three different energy systems of your body assist each other in the production of energy (ATP). This interaction ensures that the systems are efficient in providing a continued supply of energy for your body. The energy system that your body will primarily use will be determined by the type, intensity and duration of the activity. Immediate energy (Anaerobic): The ATP-CP energy system of the body is responsible for providing immediate energy for the body. Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP) is the usable form of energy created by the body. When ATP loses a high energy phosphate molecule, energy is produced so you can perform work and Adenosine Diphosphate (ADP) is formed as a result. The phosphate molecule joins together with creatine to form CP, and restores the missing phosphate molecule on ADP allowing the muscle to form more ATP and continue working. This cycle continually repeats itself as long as the work performed is of short duration and high intensity. When CM is taken as a supplement, it is stored in the muscle tissue where it can be used to bond with phosphate molecules and form CP. CP in turn, is used to provide explosive energy for the muscles: {ADP+CP-->ATP}. Short Term Energy (Anaerobic): The breakdown of muscle glycogen is known as anaerobic glycolysis. The Lactic Acid system will start to replenish ATP once the performance by the ATP-CP system can no longer provide energy due to an increase in the duration of the activity. Glycolysis allows the muscle to continue to perform work, but there are limitations. Lactic acid is produced as an end product of this process which slows down the rate at which muscle glycogen can be broken down and interferes with muscular contractions. Long Term Energy (Aerobic): The Aerobic System takes over and produces ATP when activities last approximately three minutes or longer. A variety of fuels are used to produce ATP which include muscle glycogen and body fat. Body fat will only oxidize (burn) in the presence of oxygen. So don't forget to do your cardio if you want to decrease your body fat! Benefits Of CM Supplementation: Increases storage of anaerobic energy: CM increases the amount of CP which helps the body to convert ADP into ATP so your muscles can perform more work. It also increases your muscular strength and power. Increases muscle protein synthesis: This is very important if muscular gains are one of your goals. I recommend stacking a "cross flow micro-filtered" whey protein in addition to free form amino acids while taking CM to maximize your growth potential. Natural bodybuilders have to supply their bodies with the right kind of raw materials if they expect it to grow. I suggest taking one to two grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight in addition to one 500 mg. capsule of free form amino acids per 20 pounds of bodyweight to facilitate growth. Protein requirements for individuals vary dependent on the training intensity, frequency, duration and type of activity. For example, a 200 pound person would have to ingest approximately 91- 182 grams of protein and 10 free form amino acid capsules throughout the day. This will ensure you are getting enough protein to build muscle, maintain a positive nitrogen balance and stay anabolic. Increases cellular hydration: When CM is transported into the muscle cells, it requires water if you want it to perform maximally. The fluid retention in the muscles is what gives them that "pumped" look and feel. You should drink 10 to 12 eight ounce glasses of water every day while on CM (it's a good idea to drink that much even when you are not on CM). Accelerates CP resynthesis during recovery: By increasing your muscles recovery time, they will be able to grow at an accelerated rate given you are providing them with the proper nutrients. Reduces the amount of ammonia, lactic acid & hydrogen ions formed in the blood: By reducing the amount of by-products formed in your body, you can train longer and harder thereby maximizing your growth potential. What Type Of Creatine Should I Be Using? You should purchase the creatine that was used in the scientific studies; pure CREATINE MONOHYDRATE in powder form. Some companies add certain ingredients to CM (sugars, vitamins, amino acids, etc.) and claim it makes it work "better". This is totally false and purely a marketing strategy to make you buy their product! Don't waste your money on fancy packaging and terminology! Buy the cheapest you can find - as long as the purity is good. You should be paying about 10 cents per gram for CM (take the price that you bought it for and divide it by the number of grams in the bottle). If your paying too much and you want to buy 100% pure CM for 10 cents per gram, call 1-800-484-1292 Ext. 0682 for more details. Below, I will show you the best way to use this product according to the latest scientific research. What Should I Take With CM To Maximize Results? CM should be taken with high glycemic index foods and/or drinks (baked potato, carrot or grape juice) to "spike" insulin levels. This has shown to be an effective way of getting CM to penetrate the muscle cells faster. Avoid taking CM with citrus juices as they will convert CM into an unusable by-product called creatinine. Caffeine consumption should be avoided while taking the cycle of CM as it inhibits the absorption of this metabolite. You should drink 10 to 12 eight ounce glasses of water every day to allow for maximum performance of CM. Protein intake should be one to two grams per kilogram of body weight. Dosage and Administration: (For Best Results, Follow These Guidelines) Creatine Loading Phase: Take 5 grams of CM four times a day (every three hours) for five days (20 gms./day). Creatine Maintenance Phase: Take 2 grams of CM thereafter for a total cycle of eight weeks. After the eight week period, you can stop taking it for two weeks or you can re-start the loading phase again. Note: Any additional amounts of CM that is taken during the cycle will not be absorbed by your muscles, so do not waste your money! Miscellaneous: Always check with your physician before taking any supplements or starting an exercise program. No negative side effects or toxicity levels have been associated with CM supplementation. Many people have reported gains of six to ten pounds while using CM correctly. Creatine is converted by the kidneys into a by-product called creatinine which is then removed from the body. Blood and other medical tests may show elevated levels of creatinine which normally indicates a kidney problem. Elevated creatinine levels is a harmless side effect of CM supplementation. In Conclusion: Current research shows that CM supplementation can provide immediate significant performance improvements to athletes involved in high intensity, short duration activities (weight training, shot put, sprinting, etc.). CM has shown to delay the onset of fatigue which in turn can provide higher intensity workouts. I feel this supplement can be used effectively by every athlete to increase their sport performance. Weight training is an integral part of an athletes success in his/her sport. All competitive athletes should be lifting weights to complement their sport of choice. For most athletes, the gym is where their strength and power gains will be attained and this is where CM proves to be most practical and effective as an ergogenic aid. If you are looking for added strength, power and performance, CM is for you! Good luck, train hard.
Having said that, I've also attached some great creatine info that was posted by BIGDAVE back in the day...anyone know what ever happened to BIGDAVE???
-- Posted by BIG DAVE on 10:32 pm on Aug. 15, 2001 YES, WE ALL TAKE CREATINE, WELL, MOST OF US, AND WE ALL KNOW IT SEEMS TO HELP, BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING IN OUR BODIES WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS SUPPLEMENT?-THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IN CHAT RECENTLY, ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF CREATINE. THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION ON THIS ISSUE, SO I THOUGHT ID POST THIS.-PREZ, MATT, AND WHOEVER ELSE CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS INFO-THIS IS FOR YOU.-B.D. Creatine monohydrate is a supplement used by many exercise enthusiasts such as bodybuilders, weight lifters and sprinters. Numerous studies and research have suggested that creatine monohydrate (CM) supplementation has had positive effects on the subjects using it. Its use as an ergogenic aid is very promising. In the following paragraphs, you will learn what the current research is saying and what the recommendations for its use as an ergogenic aid are. What Is Creatine Monohydrate? Creatine is a metabolite of the ATP-CP energy system of your body. It serves as an energy reserve in muscle cells. Creatine is found in the body and is synthesized in the liver and the pancreas by the amino acids arginine, glycine and methionine. It is also found in red meat, but in low concentrations. Two pounds of uncooked red meat contains only four grams of creatine and cooking the meat lowers the creatine level even more. How Does CM Work? CM is a precursor to creatine phosphate (CP). Creatine phosphate does not work as a supplement (unless injected intramuscularly) because it would be broken down into amino acids long before it reaches muscle tissue. Thus, by taking CM, CP levels in muscle tissue is maximized, and more work can be performed. In order to understand how CM works, we must first have an understanding on how the energy systems of the body work. When you need to perform work, the three different energy systems of your body assist each other in the production of energy (ATP). This interaction ensures that the systems are efficient in providing a continued supply of energy for your body. The energy system that your body will primarily use will be determined by the type, intensity and duration of the activity. Immediate energy (Anaerobic): The ATP-CP energy system of the body is responsible for providing immediate energy for the body. Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP) is the usable form of energy created by the body. When ATP loses a high energy phosphate molecule, energy is produced so you can perform work and Adenosine Diphosphate (ADP) is formed as a result. The phosphate molecule joins together with creatine to form CP, and restores the missing phosphate molecule on ADP allowing the muscle to form more ATP and continue working. This cycle continually repeats itself as long as the work performed is of short duration and high intensity. When CM is taken as a supplement, it is stored in the muscle tissue where it can be used to bond with phosphate molecules and form CP. CP in turn, is used to provide explosive energy for the muscles: {ADP+CP-->ATP}. Short Term Energy (Anaerobic): The breakdown of muscle glycogen is known as anaerobic glycolysis. The Lactic Acid system will start to replenish ATP once the performance by the ATP-CP system can no longer provide energy due to an increase in the duration of the activity. Glycolysis allows the muscle to continue to perform work, but there are limitations. Lactic acid is produced as an end product of this process which slows down the rate at which muscle glycogen can be broken down and interferes with muscular contractions. Long Term Energy (Aerobic): The Aerobic System takes over and produces ATP when activities last approximately three minutes or longer. A variety of fuels are used to produce ATP which include muscle glycogen and body fat. Body fat will only oxidize (burn) in the presence of oxygen. So don't forget to do your cardio if you want to decrease your body fat! Benefits Of CM Supplementation: Increases storage of anaerobic energy: CM increases the amount of CP which helps the body to convert ADP into ATP so your muscles can perform more work. It also increases your muscular strength and power. Increases muscle protein synthesis: This is very important if muscular gains are one of your goals. I recommend stacking a "cross flow micro-filtered" whey protein in addition to free form amino acids while taking CM to maximize your growth potential. Natural bodybuilders have to supply their bodies with the right kind of raw materials if they expect it to grow. I suggest taking one to two grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight in addition to one 500 mg. capsule of free form amino acids per 20 pounds of bodyweight to facilitate growth. Protein requirements for individuals vary dependent on the training intensity, frequency, duration and type of activity. For example, a 200 pound person would have to ingest approximately 91- 182 grams of protein and 10 free form amino acid capsules throughout the day. This will ensure you are getting enough protein to build muscle, maintain a positive nitrogen balance and stay anabolic. Increases cellular hydration: When CM is transported into the muscle cells, it requires water if you want it to perform maximally. The fluid retention in the muscles is what gives them that "pumped" look and feel. You should drink 10 to 12 eight ounce glasses of water every day while on CM (it's a good idea to drink that much even when you are not on CM). Accelerates CP resynthesis during recovery: By increasing your muscles recovery time, they will be able to grow at an accelerated rate given you are providing them with the proper nutrients. Reduces the amount of ammonia, lactic acid & hydrogen ions formed in the blood: By reducing the amount of by-products formed in your body, you can train longer and harder thereby maximizing your growth potential. What Type Of Creatine Should I Be Using? You should purchase the creatine that was used in the scientific studies; pure CREATINE MONOHYDRATE in powder form. Some companies add certain ingredients to CM (sugars, vitamins, amino acids, etc.) and claim it makes it work "better". This is totally false and purely a marketing strategy to make you buy their product! Don't waste your money on fancy packaging and terminology! Buy the cheapest you can find - as long as the purity is good. You should be paying about 10 cents per gram for CM (take the price that you bought it for and divide it by the number of grams in the bottle). If your paying too much and you want to buy 100% pure CM for 10 cents per gram, call 1-800-484-1292 Ext. 0682 for more details. Below, I will show you the best way to use this product according to the latest scientific research. What Should I Take With CM To Maximize Results? CM should be taken with high glycemic index foods and/or drinks (baked potato, carrot or grape juice) to "spike" insulin levels. This has shown to be an effective way of getting CM to penetrate the muscle cells faster. Avoid taking CM with citrus juices as they will convert CM into an unusable by-product called creatinine. Caffeine consumption should be avoided while taking the cycle of CM as it inhibits the absorption of this metabolite. You should drink 10 to 12 eight ounce glasses of water every day to allow for maximum performance of CM. Protein intake should be one to two grams per kilogram of body weight. Dosage and Administration: (For Best Results, Follow These Guidelines) Creatine Loading Phase: Take 5 grams of CM four times a day (every three hours) for five days (20 gms./day). Creatine Maintenance Phase: Take 2 grams of CM thereafter for a total cycle of eight weeks. After the eight week period, you can stop taking it for two weeks or you can re-start the loading phase again. Note: Any additional amounts of CM that is taken during the cycle will not be absorbed by your muscles, so do not waste your money! Miscellaneous: Always check with your physician before taking any supplements or starting an exercise program. No negative side effects or toxicity levels have been associated with CM supplementation. Many people have reported gains of six to ten pounds while using CM correctly. Creatine is converted by the kidneys into a by-product called creatinine which is then removed from the body. Blood and other medical tests may show elevated levels of creatinine which normally indicates a kidney problem. Elevated creatinine levels is a harmless side effect of CM supplementation. In Conclusion: Current research shows that CM supplementation can provide immediate significant performance improvements to athletes involved in high intensity, short duration activities (weight training, shot put, sprinting, etc.). CM has shown to delay the onset of fatigue which in turn can provide higher intensity workouts. I feel this supplement can be used effectively by every athlete to increase their sport performance. Weight training is an integral part of an athletes success in his/her sport. All competitive athletes should be lifting weights to complement their sport of choice. For most athletes, the gym is where their strength and power gains will be attained and this is where CM proves to be most practical and effective as an ergogenic aid. If you are looking for added strength, power and performance, CM is for you! Good luck, train hard.
homonunculus
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Bring it back if you haven't opened it by now... 
-Randy
-Randy
FlexX
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Here is some info on it.... (www.creatine.com)
The Advantages of Creatine Serum
Creatine Serum™ was developed by MMUSA's chief scientist, Dr. Mostafa Omar, a professor of Natural Product Science at the University of Rhode Island. Dr. Omar is an internationally recognized expert in the science of stability and has written a number of medical and pharmaceutical publications. He worked with top universities such as Duke University and the University of Rhode Island, to stabilize vitamin C in liquid form. This resulted in a highly-renowned and successful line of skin care products.
Dr. Omar brought this experience to the development of Creatine Serum. He endowed it with a number of significant advantages: stability, high absorption rate, solubility and equivalency.
Stability
Almost all supplements will degrade over time. But, it is a particular problem with creatine. When mixed with liquid, most creatine degrades into the waste product creatinine very quickly. By this we mean its molecular composition alters. Once this happens, it is no longer of use to athletes. But we created our stable liquid creatine by manipulating the molecule to give it different characteristics. In effect, we created a new kind of creatine that does not degrade in liquid form.
High Absorption Rate
For a supplement to work, the right amount of it must pass through cell membranes and reach the place in the body where it's used. The speed and extent at which this happens is called the absorption rate. Most supplements are simply swallowed. They are carried down into the stomach and intestines, absorbed through the stomach walls and passed through the liver. Then they pass through the walls of the blood vessels to be carried to the site of administration. These cell walls constitute the main restriction to the free dissemination of a supplement's molecules throughout the body.
Creatine Serum is designed to be absorbed sublingually, or directly through the mouth tissues. This bypasses the digestive system. Consequently, our creatine reaches the carotid artery in seconds, and from there goes directly to the muscles. Almost all of it is absorbed. Many different factors help give Creatine Serum its high absorption rate. But the biggest factor is its solubility level.
Solubility
Supplements such as creatine must be dissolved and absorbed if they're to be used. Their level of solubility is determined by their molecular properties. The greater that solubility level, the greater the amount that will be absorbed by the body. Simply defined, solubility is the measure of how completely something will dissolve into something else. The creatine molecule we created is highly soluble. The result is that it's easily absorbed. Traditional forms of creatine are not. This is why athletes need to take such large amounts of them. Because Creatine Serum is so soluble, and can be absorbed so effectively, an athlete needs to take much less of it.
Equivalency
The high solubility and absorption rates of our Serum, combined with its extreme bioavailability, mean that athletes need to take very little of it. One 5ml dosage of Creatine Serum delivers enough creatine into the bloodstream for one workout. The reason only 5ml is needed per workout is because MMUSA's Creatine Serum is the most soluble and easily absorbed form of creatine available to athletes.”
The Advantages of Creatine Serum
Creatine Serum™ was developed by MMUSA's chief scientist, Dr. Mostafa Omar, a professor of Natural Product Science at the University of Rhode Island. Dr. Omar is an internationally recognized expert in the science of stability and has written a number of medical and pharmaceutical publications. He worked with top universities such as Duke University and the University of Rhode Island, to stabilize vitamin C in liquid form. This resulted in a highly-renowned and successful line of skin care products.
Dr. Omar brought this experience to the development of Creatine Serum. He endowed it with a number of significant advantages: stability, high absorption rate, solubility and equivalency.
Stability
Almost all supplements will degrade over time. But, it is a particular problem with creatine. When mixed with liquid, most creatine degrades into the waste product creatinine very quickly. By this we mean its molecular composition alters. Once this happens, it is no longer of use to athletes. But we created our stable liquid creatine by manipulating the molecule to give it different characteristics. In effect, we created a new kind of creatine that does not degrade in liquid form.
High Absorption Rate
For a supplement to work, the right amount of it must pass through cell membranes and reach the place in the body where it's used. The speed and extent at which this happens is called the absorption rate. Most supplements are simply swallowed. They are carried down into the stomach and intestines, absorbed through the stomach walls and passed through the liver. Then they pass through the walls of the blood vessels to be carried to the site of administration. These cell walls constitute the main restriction to the free dissemination of a supplement's molecules throughout the body.
Creatine Serum is designed to be absorbed sublingually, or directly through the mouth tissues. This bypasses the digestive system. Consequently, our creatine reaches the carotid artery in seconds, and from there goes directly to the muscles. Almost all of it is absorbed. Many different factors help give Creatine Serum its high absorption rate. But the biggest factor is its solubility level.
Solubility
Supplements such as creatine must be dissolved and absorbed if they're to be used. Their level of solubility is determined by their molecular properties. The greater that solubility level, the greater the amount that will be absorbed by the body. Simply defined, solubility is the measure of how completely something will dissolve into something else. The creatine molecule we created is highly soluble. The result is that it's easily absorbed. Traditional forms of creatine are not. This is why athletes need to take such large amounts of them. Because Creatine Serum is so soluble, and can be absorbed so effectively, an athlete needs to take much less of it.
Equivalency
The high solubility and absorption rates of our Serum, combined with its extreme bioavailability, mean that athletes need to take very little of it. One 5ml dosage of Creatine Serum delivers enough creatine into the bloodstream for one workout. The reason only 5ml is needed per workout is because MMUSA's Creatine Serum is the most soluble and easily absorbed form of creatine available to athletes.”
homonunculus
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"Dr. Omar brought this experience to the development of Creatine Serum. He endowed it with a number of significant advantages: stability, high absorption rate, solubility and equivalency.
Stability"
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Creatine degrades at a rate of ~2% / day at physiological pH and temp. It doesn't degrade for didley as a powder.
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"High Absorption Rate"
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Creatine is nearly 100% absorbed. Belgian researchers (Peter Hespel's) lab have demonstrated this recently. ONce you're loaded, 5 grams in basically gives you 5 grams out in the urine - meaning its absorbed. (It comes out as consumed creatine and creatinine that has degraded from body stores - the rest of the creatine consumed replaces the 2% that degrades, maintaning elevated stores.) LIkely the GI distress some experienc is b/c they're taking too much (already loaded) and a VERY small fraction (but enoght to give the bacteria of the gut some fun) makes it to the large intestine.
"Creatine Serum is designed to be absorbed sublingually, or directly through the mouth tissues. This bypasses the digestive system. Consequently, our creatine reaches the carotid artery in seconds, and from there goes directly to the muscles. Almost all of it is absorbed. Many different factors help give Creatine Serum its high absorption rate. But the biggest factor is its solubility level."
I asked this joker for his data years ago - nothing. No reply at all.
"Solubility
The creatine molecule we created is highly soluble. The result is that it's easily absorbed. Traditional forms of creatine are not. "
This is utter bullshit. The creatine molecule they created?... It they make a new molecule it wouldn't be creatine!!! SOme sort of creatine polymer? Then it requires a new name... Creatine is 100% soluble in the concentrations it exists in the body. (IN the cells of it is protein bound, some found as creatine phosphate, some free creating, but this is biological control of its role in energetics.)
Because there is some sediment in a 8 oz glass of water does not mean it will not absorb when introduced to all the fluid of the body.
"Equivalency
The high solubility and absorption rates of our Serum, combined with its extreme bioavailability, mean that athletes need to take very little of it. One 5ml dosage of Creatine Serum delivers enough creatine into the bloodstream for one workout. The reason only 5ml is needed per workout is because MMUSA's Creatine Serum is the most soluble and easily absorbed form of creatine available to athletes.”
Show us the damn data, buttheads. Where did you publish this miraculous info among the thousands of studies of creatine supplementation (as a POWDER)?...
Do the math - my guess is that you paid a whole hell of a lot more for this.
How much for 1000g of liquid creatine?... I would guess that its probably hundreds of dollars?... Only way this could be cheaper, relative to absorption, would be if powdered creatine were like <20% absorbed or something ridiculous, which we've known isn't the case for over 70 years (I have the papers here at home in the filing cabinet of the scientists who collected their own urine and fecal matter).
Sorry for the rant, Flexx. Don't mean to vent on you, man. This stuff just irks me.
BTW, see if you can find this guy. LOL:
http://www.uri.edu/home/search/index.html
-Randy
Stability"
----
Creatine degrades at a rate of ~2% / day at physiological pH and temp. It doesn't degrade for didley as a powder.
--------
"High Absorption Rate"
-----
Creatine is nearly 100% absorbed. Belgian researchers (Peter Hespel's) lab have demonstrated this recently. ONce you're loaded, 5 grams in basically gives you 5 grams out in the urine - meaning its absorbed. (It comes out as consumed creatine and creatinine that has degraded from body stores - the rest of the creatine consumed replaces the 2% that degrades, maintaning elevated stores.) LIkely the GI distress some experienc is b/c they're taking too much (already loaded) and a VERY small fraction (but enoght to give the bacteria of the gut some fun) makes it to the large intestine.
"Creatine Serum is designed to be absorbed sublingually, or directly through the mouth tissues. This bypasses the digestive system. Consequently, our creatine reaches the carotid artery in seconds, and from there goes directly to the muscles. Almost all of it is absorbed. Many different factors help give Creatine Serum its high absorption rate. But the biggest factor is its solubility level."
I asked this joker for his data years ago - nothing. No reply at all.
"Solubility
The creatine molecule we created is highly soluble. The result is that it's easily absorbed. Traditional forms of creatine are not. "
This is utter bullshit. The creatine molecule they created?... It they make a new molecule it wouldn't be creatine!!! SOme sort of creatine polymer? Then it requires a new name... Creatine is 100% soluble in the concentrations it exists in the body. (IN the cells of it is protein bound, some found as creatine phosphate, some free creating, but this is biological control of its role in energetics.)
Because there is some sediment in a 8 oz glass of water does not mean it will not absorb when introduced to all the fluid of the body.
"Equivalency
The high solubility and absorption rates of our Serum, combined with its extreme bioavailability, mean that athletes need to take very little of it. One 5ml dosage of Creatine Serum delivers enough creatine into the bloodstream for one workout. The reason only 5ml is needed per workout is because MMUSA's Creatine Serum is the most soluble and easily absorbed form of creatine available to athletes.”
Show us the damn data, buttheads. Where did you publish this miraculous info among the thousands of studies of creatine supplementation (as a POWDER)?...
Do the math - my guess is that you paid a whole hell of a lot more for this.
How much for 1000g of liquid creatine?... I would guess that its probably hundreds of dollars?... Only way this could be cheaper, relative to absorption, would be if powdered creatine were like <20% absorbed or something ridiculous, which we've known isn't the case for over 70 years (I have the papers here at home in the filing cabinet of the scientists who collected their own urine and fecal matter).
Sorry for the rant, Flexx. Don't mean to vent on you, man. This stuff just irks me.
BTW, see if you can find this guy. LOL:
http://www.uri.edu/home/search/index.html
-Randy
FlexX
New member
No need to be sorry - thats why I post here and posted this. I'm here for answers and the feedback you just gave has been valuable. Unfortunately I purchased before posting. I'll keep taking the shit until it finishes and then get the powder.
From now on my motto is: POST BEFORE PURCHASING!!
There goes $80 AUD (approx $50 - $60 USD)
Thanks Randy (and everyone who gave some info!)
From now on my motto is: POST BEFORE PURCHASING!!
There goes $80 AUD (approx $50 - $60 USD)
Thanks Randy (and everyone who gave some info!)
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