IGF/GH/Slin

Okay. I have not been posting much for months. But, rest assured, I have been here everyday.

I have pretty much read everything about IGF here at MC and at animals board and anywhere else I can find info. But, I still have questions.

I have been off for at least six months now and will be getting back on soon. I will run dbol/tes E/deca/eq. I have not decided what doses or how long yet. Probably something like 50 dbol for a month and 700 tes e/400deca/400eq for 16 weeks.

I have 300iu's jin GH, plenty of slin, and obviously access to the IGF. I want to use the GH I have along with slin and incorporate the IGF into the cycle. How would you structure it?

I will be taking long acting tes e/eq/deca, so twice a week jabs there. What about the other stuff.

How about this? 5 iu's GH in the am for 60 days along with 10-15 iu's slin post workout and then Start the IGF as soon as the GH is gone. Change slin around to work with the IGF at that point.

Or, save the GH for end of cycle GH/slin bridge(which I love) and do the IGF in the beginning of the cycle 30 on 30 off. While doing slin when off IGF and go off slin when on the IGF.

Or maybe less GH, say 3iu's am ed and do the IGF at maybe 40mcg ed and the slin at the same time.

Basically, I am trying to figure out how to time the Slin/GH/IGF (GENERALLY SPEAKING). I am still totally researching this and won't start for a couple weeks.

Or, I can trash this whole plan and start over. I am totally open to anyone's ideas.

Thanks Bro's.

hostile

hostile said:

Or maybe less GH, say 3iu's am ed and do the IGF at maybe 40mcg ed and the slin at the same time.

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u can do a 2 iu am shot , 1 iu before bed shot of gh .
20 mcg twice a day of igf-1 .
and low dose slin post workout .
thats what i would do .

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raybravo said:

u can do a 2 iu am shot , 1 iu before bed shot of gh .
20 mcg twice a day of igf-1 .
and low dose slin post workout .
thats what i would do .

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Okay. More questions then.

Why do the 1iu gh before bed since your body makes it's natural gh at night? and why split the igf into two shots. If I choose something like this, i would want to shoot all the gh in the am and all the igf post workout. It just makes it easier.

Thanks for your input.

Anyone else?

IGF is more effective on 2x daily doses apparently. Just like GH is.

First I would get more jin at least 1-2 more kits as 3 kits will last you 2-3 months depending on how you spread it out. I would do a 5 on 2 with the JIN at 2 iu morning and 2 iu in either afternoon or right before bed. Use the slin(humalog is best) 2 x day one 2 hours after first jin injection and second one at post workout. I would only use slin 2-3 times per week. I would use the igf-1 either once or 2x daily with a 5 on 2 off pattern same as the jin and would be injected 1 hour before work out or 1 hour after slin injection. One thing that you have to remember is that when you use all three (GH,slin,IGF-1) together you do not have to use as much as if you were using it alone. This is somthing that a lot of people do not realize.

pencil said:

First I would get more jin at least 1-2 more kits as 3 kits will last you 2-3 months depending on how you spread it out. I would do a 5 on 2 with the JIN at 2 iu morning and 2 iu in either afternoon or right before bed. Use the slin(humalog is best) 2 x day one 2 hours after first jin injection and second one at post workout. I would only use slin 2-3 times per week. I would use the igf-1 either once or 2x daily with a 5 on 2 off pattern same as the jin and would be injected 1 hour before work out or 1 hour after slin injection. One thing that you have to remember is that when you use all three (GH,slin,IGF-1) together you do not have to use as much as if you were using it alone. This is somthing that a lot of people do not realize.

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This sounds good. How about if I do the GH and the IGF in the same pin. I could load the IGF first and then load the jin which is mixed with steril water to push the IGF through. These would be two shots split evenly, one in the morning and one an hour before workout. Then I could do the slin pw. That would be three shots a day and easy to keep track of. I will probably just go 7 days with the IGJ/GH and slin on workout days only. Or how about GH/IGF 30 days then GH/slin 30days.

GH gets turned into IGF-1 in the body and is then secreted into the blood stream. You want to have IGF-1 released in the body as many times possible thru out the day. That is the reason for the multiple injections of GH or IGF-1 and the reason why injecting both together is not a good idea. I know it is a lot of injections but you will get better results by having IGF-1 released in your system as many times as possible thru out the day. Do a little research on the 7 days aweek compared to the 5 on 2 off method as you will find that results are similar using both ways . you will be able to stay on longer with the 5 and 2 and the longer you are on the better the results. I am far from giving expert advise on this subject ,I am just giving you the info that I have learned and applied to my self. The guys I would seek out are D. Palumbo and Big A (professional muscle). Both are good guys and have answered questions when I emailed them. You can go to Palumbos site to find his email.

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hostile said:

Okay. More questions then.

Why do the 1iu gh before bed since your body makes it's natural gh at night? and why split the igf into two shots. If I choose something like this, i would want to shoot all the gh in the am and all the igf post workout. It just makes it easier.

Thanks for your input.

Anyone else?

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gh converts to igf-1 in the liver, so basically lower doses per shot would be like making sure ure ensuring the conversion to igf-1 . and why gh before bed ? well , when u shoot gh , the body's own production is shut down for a number of hrs (which is argueable) and its unlikely u'll get any endo production with what ure doing , so distribute the shots and get best results .
but yeah , things are easier doing a 3 iu shot of gh in the am , even i would hate doing 5 shots a day to get my slin , gh and igf-1 .but , if u want to go the once a day shot of gh , yes , do the whole thing as soon as u wake up.

also , dont combine gh and igf-1 . also , go with ed shots , not 5 days a week , maybe u can just use the igf-1 and slin on workout days , but the gh , keep it ed . and use around 5-10 gms of arginine pyroglutamate before bed , would work as a somatostatin inhibitor , thus preventing the negative feedback loop lowering the effectiveness of gh .