Think about this......

I think, therefore I think I exist. I think I exist because I think. Does thinking that I exist, or not, alter or not the reality of whether or not I exist? I think not, surely I exist or not, whether or not I think it or not.

There are people that I think exist, but I do not know if they think they exist or not. Therefore it matters not to me whether or not they think they exist, I think they exist. So it must matter not to others whether or not I think I exist or not, they will think I exist or not.

If it is you who is to judge if I exist or not, how can that be? You may exist or not. We may both think that we each exist, and also that the other exists, but we still only think that we each exist because the other thinks, as we do, that we each exist and that the other exists. But we both exist or not.

So who then is to judge if we both exist or not? Others may think that we exist or not, but who are they to judge? They may exist or not.

If enough people that I think exist, think that I exist, then that encourages me to think that I exist, and I am therefore encouraged to think that they exist.

We all then believe that we each exist because we think that we exist, and others that we think exist, think that we exist, which encourages us to think that they exist, who in turn are encouraged to think that they exist.

No repsonses? I hope it isnt TOO deep.

Theres nothing wrong with exercising your mind too, ya know!

I am that I am. I may forget WHO I am, WHERE I am, WHAT I am, but I cannot forget that I AM. I AM is that which, amid unnumbered forms, is ever the same. This great discovery of cause reveals that, good or bad, man is actually the arbiter of his own fate, and that it is his concept of himself that determines the world in which he lives and his concept of himself is his reactions to life.

Butt do we really exist? Or do we only exist if we have faith in our existence?

Is the color blue, really blue or do we think its blue because thats what someone told us?
This is some deep shit man!

Absolutely. I AM is the only reality. It proves we exist and on an infinite number of levels at that. We only display one level or state of this at any given time. We always know that I AM

heckman said:

Is the color blue, really blue or do we think its blue because thats what someone told us?
This is some deep shit man!

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Someone came up with the name 'blue' & labled a color. Blue like the sky.....but......the sky isn't really blue.

is this kinda like "Horton hears a Who"? lol

Let's talk about gear... or porn... or something .... less... smart.

Skip

book vii of Plato's the republic. a story called the allegory of the cave should clear this up. its very interesting

sweatmachine said:

Butt do we really exist? Or do we only exist if we have faith in our existence?

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You can walk the earth a lost soul if you do not believe in your existance, but you WILL still exist. You body of matter will still be taking up space. So it is not a matter of whether we will really exist or not if we don't have faith in our existance, but a matter of whether or not our existance will be worth anything, when we do not exist anymore.

Sounds familiar.....I think I heard those exact same words before. I think they were followed by the proclamation "I'm so F'in stoned"......

sweatmachine said:

I think, therefore I think I exist. I think I exist because I think. Does thinking that I exist, or not, alter or not the reality of whether or not I exist? I think not, surely I exist or not, whether or not I think it or not.

There are people that I think exist, but I do not know if they think they exist or not. Therefore it matters not to me whether or not they think they exist, I think they exist. So it must matter not to others whether or not I think I exist or not, they will think I exist or not.

If it is you who is to judge if I exist or not, how can that be? You may exist or not. We may both think that we each exist, and also that the other exists, but we still only think that we each exist because the other thinks, as we do, that we each exist and that the other exists. But we both exist or not.

So who then is to judge if we both exist or not? Others may think that we exist or not, but who are they to judge? They may exist or not.

If enough people that I think exist, think that I exist, then that encourages me to think that I exist, and I am therefore encouraged to think that they exist.

We all then believe that we each exist because we think that we exist, and others that we think exist, think that we exist, which encourages us to think that they exist, who in turn are encouraged to think that they exist.

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Are you high or something?

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jaywooly said:

Are you high or something?

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what about people in comas?
they exist to everyone around them i.e. the hospital, the insurance company, and their family.
but they do not think or have the abilty to change anything.
hmmmm????????

Skip said:

Let's talk about gear... or porn... or something .... less... smart.

Skip

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I'm with Skip on this one! Let's add alcohol and have a PARTY!

do you exist? well, if you're unsure, take a knife and run the sharp end of the blade across the palm of hand. The bleeding should be clue that you do in fact exist. If that isn't proof enough, poor some salt in the wound for some added clarity.

thank you, good night, i'm out!