Since digging up stuff about Myostatin and etc., I have found many research laboraties with other various compounds at great prices, if I am right. I have found Recombinant Human Growth Hormone (rHuGH) 1mg for $175 and I am not sure if it is the same active substance that is in say ...Humatrope or any other gh product. I hope sombody out there has some answers.
Recombinant Human Growth Hormone (rHuGH)
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BrownBomber
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einstein1905
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Franz said:
Franz,
You are like a tabloid reporter
You took that line out of context. The people that GH is most likely to benefit are predisposed to its adverse side effects. Healthy males are not predisposed in such a way. That doesn't mean that insulin sensitivity won't increase, but you can compensate for that. The studies were in AIDS-wasting patients who were predominantly on HAART. Their systems are not in the optimal condition for growth as it is. The "benefits" to healthy people, males in particular, who are further increasing their positive nitrogen balance with AAS and a huge intake of protein, are in a position to greatly benefit from hGH.Read people's reports on their use of GH on the boards. The (side) effects are sore/swollen wrists, increased lean mass, reduced body fat, and sore facial muscles from smiling all the damn time at what's happening to their bodies.
As for Myogrow, I've posted regarding that product several times. I finally did get a response back from the manufacturers. I'm not fully convinced that they know what they're talking about, scientifically. Either that, or I'm not getting the right tech guy to respond. The theory and potential is there, but there haven't been anybody speaking up yet with clear success stories. I will try it though, as I've stated.
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Check out the manufacturer's page here :Franz said:
http://www.silobiotech.com/muscle_products.htm
Gasp-1 is in peptide form and has been shown to inhibit myostatin specifically, as opposed to follistatin, which does so more generally and with less efficiency.
The problem with siRNA in vivo is that the RNA molecules need to get into the myocytes to bind their complementary mRNA, which prevents myostatin mRNA from being translated into myostatin protein. RNA has no impetus to do so. In vitro, you'd use some transfection reagent or electroporation to increase the uptake of the RNA molecules. Once the molecules are inside, it's a whole different story.....things should be great. However, they (silobiotech) are very sketchy when they suggest in vivo concentrations and have not even attempted to show data to back up their recommended concentrations for in vivo use.
Myostatin is secreted once in protein form, so Gasp-1 looks to be a very good choice to bind myostatin protein extracellularly. myostatin is secreted and then binds its receptors (mainly on myocytes), which seems like a few wasted steps, since it's expressed in myocytes. Gasp-1 should accomplish some good myostatin inhibition. I have no idea what doses to use though. As for Myogrow, there is a lot more POTENTIAL, but in vivo delivery intracellularly has yet to be proven to me anyway.
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Myostatin costs $340, MyoGrow $240, and rHuGH $175 1mg. I just am not sure as to what is the best bang for the buck! Just as you said, there is no real concrete data to back up the claims. I know that growth hormone has for years been the choice to grow. I just wish there were more people out there that had first hand experience and comparisons. The IGF worked a lil bit for me, I am just all hyped up on the Myostatin theory of breaking genetic limits! Im 220lbs now, about five years back i started at 170, I just want to be a big 250lb ripped S.O.B.
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Ummm...Franz you don't want to buy Myostatin. That would negate any positive benefits as it is been proven in studies to inhibit muscle (*overgrowth) and helps prevent or basically keep the body within certain limits.
I'm currently using myogro but I'm sick so I'd rather not spend too much time on the puter when I could be resting.
As for rHuGH it isn't cost efficient to use. HGH is cheaper and would produce better benefits than that stuff. Think about it HGH in 1mg is equal to 3 IU's, therefore 1mg of GHrH won't be all that great. You'll be pissing money away.
I'm currently using myogro but I'm sick so I'd rather not spend too much time on the puter when I could be resting.
As for rHuGH it isn't cost efficient to use. HGH is cheaper and would produce better benefits than that stuff. Think about it HGH in 1mg is equal to 3 IU's, therefore 1mg of GHrH won't be all that great. You'll be pissing money away.
Yeah I am finally digging up stuff on all this Jinotropin, GH and etc. I see now that cost is way high. I never got into GH because it was so expensive and hard to get. I am for sure about to order some MyoGrow to see the effects first hand! Thanks for the reply and help. Later
You said that you were currently on MyoGrow. I am going to go the MYoGrow route as well, but the problem is that I have been trying to find out how to administer and what dosage do you use (how many i.u.'s ??). And do you mix it with bacteriostatic water for i.m. or s.q. injection? I would greatly appreciate any feedback.
einstein1905
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Franz said:
Definitely shoot IM. I hope Silo is providing RNase free water to resuspend in. If not, they should be. They will give you recommended doses, but these may or may not be sufficient. My questions to them regarding how they came up with their recommended doses were not answered very well.
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Franz said:
Hitmeoff went through Silo. It doesn't matter. Lab Corp gets it from Silo. The only difference is a $10 mark up, which is nothing. Go with Lab-corp to support a sponsor.
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