Juice on Ketodiet.

Have any of you cycled (juiced) on CKD or Simple Ketogenic diet.
I am hypothesizing that one would gain a good amount of muslce cuz ketodiet is protien sparing.

So tell me what u guys think.

Well....i would say your hypothesis is correct bro. lol.

Its much easier to just do a regular bulk diet then cut later. You'll be able to put on more muscle mass. Its a tall order to cut BF and gain muscle at the same time. Difficulties that usually end up in disappointment.

I think that's a major problem for a lot of guys starting out. They want to be lean and get huge at the same time, but for most it doesn't work out that way. lol. Bulk first - cut later. JMO.

I think it is totally possible to stay "relatively" the same bf% when bulking. Everyone says to eat anything and everything, but if you were to keep it fairly clean and not cut out cardio; it is definitely doable.

Younggunz,

I would bulk with carbs in the system. The muscle cells need the fuel, the carbs are anabolic (insulin) and provide the kcal needed for anabolism. There are guys who I know (via the net) who have been able to stay lean and bulk with a CKD (modified to have frequent carb-ups) but these are few and far between.

Another option might be to carb-cycle, rather than attempt to get into a ketotic state. The concept that ketosis per se is a magical metabolic state that spares protein is not well supported at all. REgardless, when gaining you're not trying to spare it, you're trying to gain it.

-Randy

Anybody else got any suggestions?

i think that i will cut up first then bulk with carbs. i am actually quite fat rite now, so i definitly need to go down to 10-12% then bulk with a clean diet and a sexy little cycle.