test doasges...?

On average for a intermitiate - advance BB'er..what would you say the average dosage a week for Prop.. Enathat... suspension... cyp would be..?As we know about 75% of oil based products are really obsorbed by the body to be used and most if not alll of the water based products are used....I have used on average 750-1000 mgs of enanthate and got great results with no spill over or sides..

But i am thinking of doing prop and suspension in the future in cycles and do i need like 500-1000 mgs of suspension and 500-1000 of prop when i do..i am not using them in the same cycle by the way...

Stats are 36 years old...training for 18 years ..def not my first cycle...competed for 8 years 1990-1998...5 ft' 6...220 lbs...11% bf ..i did do a cycle of suspension and tren for 6 weeks and gained 17 lbs in 3 weeks and kept 15 of it when i finsihed and 6 months later i am still holding my weight

posted by big cat over at cem , and i like the way its presented , so here ya go :

"We all know that testosterone is by far the most health conscious choice for those dabbling in illicit performance enhancement. To such an extent that I personally believe that any non-competitive athlete should refrain from using anything else as long as possible. But we also know that in very high doses testosterone's effects no longer increase linearly. At which point adding more testosterone is fairly useless and another drug must be additioned. I personally recommend fina because it is synergistic with test anti-catabolically and it solves the problem that test has with not filling up all androgen receptors (since it is highly resistant to SHBG and the like and has a high affinity for the AR).

But what is that maximum dose of test at which point another drug should be added instead of more testosterone ? Well, I'm basing this simple calculation on a study on rats where 1mg/kg/d showed an increase in weight gain, but upping the dose to 10 mg/kg/d did nothing to enhance this effect. Now this does not mean that 1mg is the ceiling. It could be lower, but we also know that 600 mg per week of I forget what ester still showed a perfectly linear response, so it won't be that much lower. But using these figures you could calculate your maximum dose of testosterone as follows :

(Bodyweight (in kg) x 7 (days per week) / percentage of testosterone in ester ) x 100

This determines the weekly dose of your ester of choice. Two problems with this equation :

1.Some of you may still not have grasped the concept of a universal metric system, in which case, your bodyweight in kg is the same as your bodyweight in lbs divided by 2.2. Give or take.

2.You don't know the percentage of testosterone in a given ester and you haven't the faintest where to look it up. Well, folks, I had some time on my hands, so I calculated it for you :

a.Testosterone suspension : 100%
b.Testosterone Propionate : 79%
c.Testosterone Phenylpropionate : 66%
d.Testosterone Isocaproate : 71%
e.Testosterone enanthate : 69%
f.Testosterone Cypionate : 67%
g.Testosterone Undecanoate : 61%

So for examples we have a 220 lbs bodybuilder. His weight in kg would be 220/2.2 = 100 kg. 100 x 7 = 700. Lets take enanthate as an example so (700/69) x 100 = 1015 mg per week of testosterone enanthate.

If you inject once a week, that'll be about 1g, if you inject twice a week that will be two times 500 mg. If this dose is no longer effective for you, then you would addition another steroid."

good post RB...I have always wondered what the percentage of testosterone was in a given product.

Good deal ray. Nice post from big cat. Thanks for sharing.

hey thanks...best answer i could of asked for....now with the thought in mind that i respond best to 1000 mgs of enanathate a week..do i do 1250-1500 mgs of enanathate..or 1250 mgs of prop ...or 700 mgs of suspension...

does it make a difference in the long run..besides tapering off..could i do 500 mgs of enanthate 2 x's a week for 10 weeks and do 100 mgs of suspension ED for 1 month till the enanathate kicks in and enanathate self tapers so at week 10 i take my last shot which i wil lmake 500 mgs..use the HCG,clomid to start things up in 2 weeks ....Just skip the HCG clomid i know what to do at the end of a cycle but now that i am more familiar with test % i am getting smarter about things like that ...

that is some good info!!!

a small degree of frontload wont hurt bro .