To those with slin experience....

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Alwayslearning

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• Feb 16, 2004

• #1

You work out, take your shot, eat your carbs, then eat another meal sometime (1hr.?) later. Do you get an incredible pump from taking the slin and the carbs or does not much happen? Or is there another feeling you get, besides possible hypo?

 

crankin'stein

New member

• Feb 16, 2004

• #2

Sometimes I will feel the pump stick around a lot longer then usual...., Other times I will feel nothing from taking it.... But I know it is working.

 

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Arned Flanderss

New member

• Feb 16, 2004

• #3

I have had weird slin experience this time around. I feel like I am not taking enough, but I will NEVER get careless with slin. I take around 10-12iu post training drink about 100g carbs and 50-60g protine. wait a litttle while I sip on some carbs untill about 2hours later where the big meal goes down. Like crank said though sometimes I feel it sometimes not. The only side so far is I get fuckin tired as hell.

 

Bently

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Feb 16, 2004

• #4

Can't say I felt anything related to a pump other than being bloated with slin. It does make me very tired also.

 

sweatmachine

New member

• Feb 16, 2004

• #5

I bloat like a MO-FO, I ran the slin after the IGF and didnt have any kind of a pump that resembled the pump from the IGF. I did gain weight from the slin other than the bloat...I think

 

GetnBigr

New member

• Feb 17, 2004

• #6

never felt anything from the slin

just know it's in there doing it's thing

 

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raybravo

Vet

• Feb 17, 2004

• #7

u get more thirsty , and u pee a lot . btw , u mentioned u shoot slin and u take ur carbs , just a reminder , u need 10 gms per iu of whey as well , thats when the real growth happens , when there is amino acid abundance .

 

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dIeSeL_225

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• Feb 17, 2004

• #8

so ray your sayin that 100grams of whey and 100g of carbs should be taken after your slin shot if 10ius are taken, wont all that protein go to waste?

 

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crazyk

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• Feb 17, 2004

• #9

I just started using slin and have only experienced tiredness my question is when one shoots slin then consumes the required amount of simple carbs (10g per 1iu) does any one ever get signs of hypo following that rule of thumb. the reason I'm asking is to try and find out how insulin sensitive I am without putting myself in risk. If one takes in less simple carbs per iu the insulin should work better correct? so if someone can find a tolerance point at a lower then 10g per iu ratio it would help. how much would it help? Is it worth it?

 

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BiggerStronger

Member

• Feb 17, 2004

• #10

taking in too many carbs can make you fat...taking in too little can make you dead...

I'm not suggesting that you take any risks with slin, but the only way to find out what your sensitivity is like is by going a little less (on the carbs) each day until you feel yourself going hypo. Then you know to raise it a little. When doing this make sure you have plenty of simple sugars or glucose tabs around. I wouldn't suggest this for a newbie though. See what happens with the slin at 10g per iu first. If it makes you fat maybe back down on the carbs a bit like I suggested. Never cut carbs significantly...baby steps otherwise you could seriously screw yourself up. I.E. Coma, or worse yet death.

 

jipped genes

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• Feb 17, 2004

• #11

i take 12 iu of log post workout with 100 grams of dextrose and 65 grams of protein and i get lazy as hell. all i wanna do is nap. DONT go to sleep. you could go hypo in your sleep and pretty much die.it seems while doing slin my appetite goes up substantially as well

 

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Arned Flanderss

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• Feb 17, 2004

• #12

raybravo said:

u get more thirsty , and u pee a lot . btw , u mentioned u shoot slin and u take ur carbs , just a reminder , u need 10 gms per iu of whey as well , thats when the real growth happens , when there is amino acid abundance .

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I dissagree, are you saying that one should consume 200mg of protien if the dose of slin is 20iu's? Even if it is 10iu's to much protien can be dangerous as it slows the absorbtion of nutrients in the gastric tract. Carbs being one of those nutients much needed at a critical time.

 

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raybravo

Vet

• Feb 18, 2004

• #13

well , first of all , that was something ive tried for a while now , second of all , check on the glycemic index of whey and that in itself is pretty high . consume ur whey and carbs when u shoot , and u will be fine when insulin peaks in about 30 mins or so . btw, the need for carbs isnt really 10 gms per iu( although i suggest u start off at 10 gms ) , i do fine at 7 gms per iu .
either way , this is the guideline i follow , works great for me , but forget my guidelines , and just grasp the idea that u need to have hyper amino acid levels in ur system when insulin is active . shoot insulin and covering it with carbs is of not much use .

 

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crazyk

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• Feb 18, 2004

• #14

do you guys only use it on gym days?

 

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Arned Flanderss

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• Feb 18, 2004

• #15

raybravo said:

well , first of all , that was something ive tried for a while now , second of all , check on the glycemic index of whey and that in itself is pretty high .

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Not sure what index you are going by. Whey protiens glycemic index, or affect on blood glucose, is very low. I mean not even close to medium low. I am not knocking you it is just not the best route IMO.

 

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tommy1000

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• Mar 28, 2004

• #16

10 ius before last set, 10 grams glutamine wait 10 min. 80 grams protein, wait 10 minutes. 100 grams carbs. complete meal 1 hour or so later.

 

Avon

New member

• Mar 29, 2004

• #17

What extra benefits are you guys looking for by taking the slin. I used it before but did not notice that much difference. I did feel lightheaded and sick once from not getting enough carbs. That sure did not feel too good. Didn't really mess with it anymore after that!

 

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stumpy

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• Mar 29, 2004

• #18

i've expierienced a pump when using slin w/ carbs and creatine, the slin shuttles the nutreints quickly into the cells.

 

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pmcnut

New member

• Mar 30, 2004

• #19

Just a question, If you guys have access to insulin maybe can you guys get glucon in case the hypo gets to bad, I know we will give it to patients on the table when it gets really bad, and most time a we will only give when a patient is unconsciuos, but all you guys know your own body better than any health care worker, if it gets that bad use, you will know. but simple carbs should do the trick, I would rather give my self the shot than end up in the E.R. or I.C.U., or in the O.R. cause you hit the dirt and busted your head, than I'll see ya.

 

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blackhand

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• Mar 30, 2004

• #20

I use it post workout with HGH (10-12 ius of hum-R). a simple meal replacement (with carbs in it ) should take care of you (I use N-Large). Keep a good source of simple sugar handy like apple/orange juice, hard candy and soda. I usually get very sleepy startin about 30 mins in. I cant report any huge/dramatic pumps ect......

Everyone needs to understand the hypo process......its not like getting shot in the head. I have had minor hypo twice....you feel a little detatched and you pop a full body sweat.......I hit coca-cola both times and it took me 45 mins to feel normal again.....

I would def talk to a diabetic.....chances are they have had it happen a few times..........