IGF Questions

I started IGF-1LR3 2 weeks a go at 30mcg's a day

A few questioins

Its going good, im using 30gauge 5/16 length insulin needles and doing IM into my calves, is that ok, my calves are geting a lot bigger now.

Do you have any thoughts on what the best place to inject is for IGF?

What is Sub qutaneous mean? Into the skin or fat, right? Is that how I should be injecting it? Like were you shoot it into you skin your stomach?

I want to know the best most effective way to inject for total body benifit.

sub q means under the skin in the fatty layer. pinch a little fat on your stomach and pop it in.

I dont know if it matters where you inject. but i used that shit at 50/day 5 on 2 off.

most say inject after workout apparently its not too strong for too long

Where is the best place to inject for total body benifit?

Supra said:

Where is the best place to inject for total body benifit?

Click to expand...

Into the muscle worked that day, or the day prior, if it's a non workout day.

But I cant inject it to like 4 different muscle groups, like today I did chest, bi's abs and calves, how am I supposed to inject it to all those muscle groups, I just want to take the IGF just like people take HGH, its the same thing, so it should be the same priciples right? How do people inject HGH?

Supra said:

But I cant inject it to like 4 different muscle groups, like today I did chest, bi's abs and calves, how am I supposed to inject it to all those muscle groups, I just want to take the IGF just like people take HGH, its the same thing, so it should be the same priciples right? How do people inject HGH?

Click to expand...

You can't really look at IGF-1 LR3 like you do GH. GH will raise serum IGF-1 levels, yes, but the increased serum levels of IGF-1 in response to GH will be short lived relative to LR3. Muscles express the greatest concentration of IGF receptors post trauma (after they've been worked). You want to capitalize on this by introducing IGF-1 to these locations preferentially. If you shoot subQ, you're leaving things up to random binding to whichever IGF receptors are most accessible. These happen to be located on your intestinal epithelia and spleen as well as other sites, which include skeletal muscle. Since, LR3 has a much longer half life than regular IGF, and it's completely free to bind (vs IGF-1, which is quickly bound by IGFBPs), you don't want it systemic if it can be avoided. Some recent research shows that IGF-1 does not leave skeletal muscle very well. To pick the muscles you'd most like to target for effects and shoot bilaterally is the most sensible way to take it, based on both curent research and experience. No doubt you'll feel effects if you shoot subQ too, but you'll open yourself up to a greater risk of potential sides vs less chances of desired binding to receptors.

So just keep doing IM?

I told you the that in another one of your posts supra. I said don't shoot it in your butt at all and unless your calves are really weak and lagging don't keep shooting it in them either like you had been. I said shoot it into the muscle group you'll be training prior to working it out and after you've worked it out.

Einstein is exactly right....

See i dont have enough IGF to go around shooting it ever where, I have enough to do one ijection of 30mcg's a day for 30 days, that is why I needed to know the best place to inject it for the most total body benifit, cayse when I inject in my calves, I can only do one calve per pay, you see what I mean? This is why I am asking just hte all out best placefor everything ya know?

Like look at it this way, were do bb inject the HGH they take or anyone else, stuted growth kids and so on?

In the stomach for GH or where they want fat loss b/c GH acts differently than IGF. GH can cause fat cells to empty out their contents when exposed directly to GH, however IGF doesn't cause this in fat cells when exposed directly.

IGF needs to be put directly into the muscle cells for the most and highest benefit. If you're doing 30mcg's a day then (as an example) if you were doing bis do 7.5mcg into each bicep in the am or prior to training them then at night before bed do the same again and you've used your 30 mcg's but now it will benefit you much more than doing it sub-Q. If you're going to spend the money you might as well do it right. If not then save the money and hassle and just train without it.

Alright cool, sounds good, thanks man