This is a great board but.....

Hey guys this board is great. I always get a quick answer when I post a question. I have not used AAS but I am looking into it. It seems that most of the people posting are into their ???teenth cycle. I would like some reccomendations for a noob. I really dont want to take 15 different drugs at 1000mg ed. Thanks for all the good reading - Iam addicted to it!!!! I start at 10:00 at night and dont realize I am still reading at 6:00 in the morning!

Its good that you are reading and interested in the information provided on the board.

To answer your question, a Test only cycle is always a good choice for a first time out. Test Enth or Cyp at 500mg/ wk should do the body good. Run it for 12 weeks and use the usual post cycle theropy. U should see good gains.

My first was deca at 400mg/week and test e at 500 mg/week and d-bol at 35mg/day for the first 4 weeks great 1st cycle was up almost 30 lbs. and strength went through the roof.

UHLcougar,
First off. Nobody should ever suggest anything without knowing some background information or what the person desires to do. How can anyone suggest a certain AAS if you don't know what the person wants to accomplish?

Give some background first....What weight are you? Age? Approx training history? Body composition?

From that and what you desire I'm sure I or someone could make some newbie cycle suggestions for you to get you your desired goal. Do you want size, strength, fat loss, etc?

I posted my goals on another thread. I was just commenting on some reply's I got. Anyways I am 5'8" 190 - I want to increase my strength and add some quality muscle. I have trained hard for at leat 5 years. I want to stick with one AAS if possible and I dont want to blow up to quickly. Thanks Again

If you've never used AAS before, it probably won't matter a whole lot which one you take because you'll gain a lot of size regardless because it will be your first cycle. Some compounds will give you better size gains than others but with lower retention and some give less size gains but better retention. Study up in the MC encyclopedia to match which ones would go with your goals--then ask around for types of cycles others have started off with. You need to be informed as much as possible before beginning.

For your fist cycle i would recomend just using low doses of low androgenic steroids - as it is your fist cycle, you will notice decent gains on just 300mg of primo a week for 12 weeks. These gains will be easy to keep as well which is the main thing right?
There will be plenty of time for stronger androgens and bigger doses further down the line.

Thanks wide. Primo sounds cool! Any other suggestions?

It is true that most of the vets have umpteen years and godzillion cycles under their belts and yes we must realize that we all started out as a newbie also.

To keep things simple, do a 10-12 week cycle with a Test product (Enanthate, Cypionate, Sustanon) along with Deca.

500 mgs of Test per week taken in 2 shots spaced 3-4 days apart along with the test take the Deca at 300 mgs per week and you can mix the deca into the same syringe as the Test to avoid taking anymore shots then necessary.

Also be sure to have nolvadex as an insurance policy in case gyno appears.

Clomid for post cycle therapy and you are good to go.

I would also highly recommend that you have your blood tested to ensure that your liver, kidneys are functioning properly along with your blood pressure.

If you can't afford deca, then I would just use test. I personally like enan. Being for 1st cycle, any test will give you good results. Very important to have nolva. Bitch tits are no fun! You don't need clomid for PCT, just use nolva. So there you go, you only need to get 2 drugs.
Make sure you're getting shit load of protein, hot hard at your training and rest to grow or else your cycle will go down the drain.
Good luck bro!

Get some type of test like omnadren 250 or sustanon 250 and take 500 mg per week for 10 weeks you will gain lots of size. 2 and a half weeks after you finish your cycle use chlomid at doses of 5/4/3/2 your first few days then take 2 a day until a total of two weeks and you will be good to go. Even after years of AAs there is still no need to take the huge amounts that some guys talk about. Your diet is the most important part no matter how much juice you use.

I cant see the test cycles

if he wants to add minimal size but just get some lean weight. Test cycles as suggested (500mg) will normally add 20-30 pounds 1n 10-12 weeks..most up front. To stack deca with it is adding to that.

The primo suggestion was good but expensive. 300mg primo will add about 15 pounds of quality muscle.

I just read an interesting quote from Frank Zane regarding 70's steroid usage. He stated most competitors used 100mg nandrolone(deca) per week and 15 mg dbol per day. I also remember Tom Platz saying he was in his best condition on 200mg deca(per week) and 15 mg winstrol per day. Many have made very good, quality gains off of just winstrol at 15 mg per day or less. The usage of massive amounts of drugs is overkill and counterproductive. It sounds as if his natural test is adequate so I would use nandrolone phenylprop or deca at 100 mg per week and either dbol at 15 mg or winstrol at 15 mg for 8-10 weeks.

I do not believe deca takes a long time to act as others assert. I have gained 10 pounds in one week on 300mg deca and 15 mg winstrol. Curently I am using 250mg test, 100mg nandrolone phenylprop and 20mg dbol and am up over 5 pounds in ten days. After three weeks I will discontinue dbol, rest a week and then do 25 mg winstrol with the other drugs for another 3 weeks. Rest a week and do the dbol again. Don't feel orals are harsh to the liver unless you drink and take other drugs.

If you want some quality muscle without bloat and risk of a bunch of side efx look into things like primo, anavar, winny, EQ or test prop. The first two are kinda hard to find usually expensive. A cheaper but high quality begginer cycle would be something like winny injectable and you could put that with maybe test prop (really cheap) or maybe EQ for extra vascularity.

500mgs of a test is way too much for a begginer. 250mgs is more than suffice if you wanted to use a test but something like sustanon would be a good choice or test prop (for less water retention/bloat) but if you used the prop more injections would be needed like every 3rd day at least or M-W-F maybe.