cheap quailty size and cutting ?

i want my dog to gain some size and trim out too if i gain weight its not a problem i just wanan gain muscle and trim fat... i wantted to know if anyone knew a cheap oral cycle for dog. please list the product ( doses amount and length for all) thanks guys for all your help i weigh 220 now and have been liftin for a year and iam in good size with a lil baggage on the waist... i hope to either lose weight and gain more muscle or gain more QUALITY weight and size and trim up some fat... i have done a weak small cycle of winstrol pills before and iam lookin for a bigger oral gain for my dog where size increases and fat goes down... thanks guys you are the shit

don't do just orals....usually you can tell how much someone is committed when they want to use just orals...using needles can be much more health friendly, and provide more managable and long lasting gains.

There are two scenarios here: Are you afraid of needles? Probably Yes; Do you know all of the in's and out's of taking AAS? Probably not

If your answers are different then the above please let me know, but for someone that doesn't even know generally what kind of drugs they should use for such a task I would say look into working harder in the gym (change your program, get more rest, etc), getting a good protein supplement, change diet to match goals, and researching AAS if you're really hell bent on doing it.

This is not a flame, but someone that is really trying to help you not waste your time with AAS before you're ready. You would just be setting yourself up for disappointment.

its not that iam afraid of needles i just alot of work tha ti wish i could avoid
i was think about takin a d-bol cycle but i wanted something else to trim up more along with the bulking from the d-bol

Avoiding work isn't good, because all of what a bber does is work. Often not fun, but the results kick ass when you're 100% committed.

I will not be one of the guys that say a d-bol only cycle is completely worthless....but I will tell you its very hard to hold onto these quick and sudden gains which often half of which is water weight anyways...diet, training, rest are immensely important when trying to accomplish what you would be trying to do.

Anyways, Tell me your age...

I would say take 30-50mg of D-bol for 6 weeks...Now do a little research on diets, because I'll tell you right now that if your diet is crap you might gain 5-10lbs but within 2-3 weeks of stopping your gains will be basically nill. Good luck with that...(and I'll say from experience once I got over my "fear" of needles I finally started making gains...getting rid of that fear required lots of research tho...so I knew so much more as well)

Why is it that most of your posts BS, end with, "This is not a flame." LOL, just joshin' ya bro.

Now, I WILL be one of those guys that will tell you an only dbol cycle is worthless. I don't see ANY gains stay with that stuff. Sure, it'll get you strong while taking it, but then the water goes bye-bye.

If you are serious about your first statement, "i want to gain some size and trim out too if i gain weight its not a problem i just wanan gain muscle and trim fat... "

I say Test Enanthate cycle, 500mgs 10 weeks. Cheap, probably much more cheap than your oral business. You'll gain pounds, and likely keep them if you bust your ass.

I'm gonna agree that a dbol only cycle is a waste. So is a test only cycle IMO. If your really serious, I say educate yourself about inj then hit a test/eq maybe even add var. I'm not a fan off oral only cycles, but you could start out with var only, lot better than dbol only.

Notice how when I said it wasn't completely worthless.....lol.....the word worthless was still in there.

I agree with Jay on this one...Test Enanthate and maybe some EQ.

brew said:

I'm gonna agree that a dbol only cycle is a waste. So is a test only cycle IMO. If your really serious, I say educate yourself about inj then hit a test/eq maybe even add var. I'm not a fan off oral only cycles, but you could start out with var only, lot better than dbol only.

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Please educate me sir, in what way(s) are a only test cycle worthless?

IMO one doesn't need to go crazy and stack steroids sky-high, especially for a first timer, to be benificial.

i USED TEST ONLY 200MG A WEEK FIRST TIME I EVER TRYED GEAR, PUT 30LBS ON IN 10 WEEKS, TEST ENTATE TORNEL TO BE EXACT, ALSO IT COST 300$ FOR ONE BOTTLE BACK THEN,LOL, OK I WAS RIPPED OFF BUT WHO KNEW THEIR FIRST TIME AROUND, NOT ME

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i USED TEST ONLY 200MG A WEEK FIRST TIME I EVER TRYED GEAR, PUT 30LBS ON IN 10 WEEKS, TEST ENTATE TORNEL TO BE EXACT, ALSO IT COST 300$ FOR ONE BOTTLE BACK THEN,LOL, OK I WAS RIPPED OFF BUT WHO KNEW THEIR FIRST TIME AROUND, NOT ME

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Thank you Presser...pm coming your way..