Test only, newbie cycle?

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Alwayslearning

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What do you think of a test prop only cycle for someone's first go around?

They are male, 30 yrs. 225lbs. 18%BF lifting for 14 plus years looking for some size then going into a cutting phase. Knowledgeable in PCT and ancillaries and have on hand.

What doses and cycle length for a newbie?

Thanks Bros!!
 
CYPHON said:
100mg EOD for 6-8 weeks would be decent.
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Good call Cyphon. That would work great.
But yes,,it is a lot of stickin's for a 1st cycle.
Maybe 400mg week test E or Cyp. Would
be 1to2 stickin's a week. Your call thou.
Want ever your OK with. Good luck Bro.

HHH
 
I would not go with prop your first go round. I def. would go test enanthate at about 500mgs EW. Forget the deca bro, you'll get your gains off the test. I would also consider you to extend it for a bit more than 6-8 weeks. I'd say 8 minimum, preferably 10. That would be two 10ml bottles of some 250mgs/ml stuff.
 
MUCH BIGGER said:
Test Enth is a good first Test only cycle. 10 wks @ around 500mg wk. Fewer injections for a first timer.
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What kind of sides could one expect from this..Libido, acne, larthargy etc...I am also looking at a first also

what could you stack with it to get hard gains without alot of water...inject or orals..possibly leaning more toward an oral

someone had mentioned to me on doing one of the new all in one combos
Tren acetate 100mgs/ EQ 100mgs/ Propionate 100mgs 1 cc, 2 times a week

thanks
 
Well, I don't agree with their recomendation. To many injections for a first timer IMO. And, you won't be happy with the pro and tren unless you go every other day with it. I would do eth , eq and then either winny or var as the oral. Sides, libido will go up when your on. When off, acne sets in mainly on the shoulders for me, and some lethargic feeling sometimes. In gengal the volcanoes on you back will proably be the most annoying side you expeirence, I would also take dex so gyno is not a concern.
 
in my opinion everyone's first cycle should be test only. test should be the base of every cycle you do and you need to know how you're body reacts to it ie. acne, bloat, hairloss, gains...how will you know if you're using two kinds of aas? my suggestion..test cyp or enth@400-500mg/wk for 10 wks, just like HHH said. you will love the gains off that cycle trust me.
 
flexmaster said:
in my opinion everyone's first cycle should be test only. test should be the base of every cycle you do and you need to know how you're body reacts to it ie. acne, bloat, hairloss, gains...how will you know if you're using two kinds of aas? my suggestion..test cyp or enth@400-500mg/wk for 10 wks, just like HHH said. you will love the gains off that cycle trust me.
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thats the ticket for me then...already stocked on the Nolva bro...

when I get ready to run, I am sure I will have some more questions...been researching for a long, long time.
thanks for a very simple answer!
 
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you're welcome. ANY questions you have please don't be afraid to ask, it's better to ask something you're not sure of than do something completely wrong and pay for it later!
 
yes, by including another aas he'll get better gains, but it's his first cycle and he's going to go through the roof anyway. if he uses deca and gets gyno how will he know if it's from the test or deca. deca converts to progesterone(sp?). either way willieman, you will get amazing gains. do what you think is most logical.
 
Yeah bro, stick with Test Enanthate and see how your body reacts to it. 250mg twice a week. I mean, if you blow up on Test Enanthate alone, wth would you wanna spend hundreds of dollars on a bunch of other crap. I did Test Enan for my first cycle and put on 30 lbs. Cycle only lasted 8 weeks too. You wont know how your body will react to Test until you try it. Everyone is different.
 
Here is my reasoning behind this. You guys who have done test only cycles, how much muscle did you keep? I've never done a test only, but have seen many guys do a sust only cyles. I'll do a test and eq cycle, and when were done, I KEEP MORE MUSCLE. It just might be my body, but I really think it has to do with the eq/deca/whatever the other is, hardening up what you've put on with the test. Yes it makes sense to start with just test, to see the gyno situation, etc. However, deca or eq will give gyno in maybe 1 out of 10,000 people if that, very rare. Also, I know you have nolv on hand, but why wait for the possiblity of gyno? get some a-dex so you don't hurt you cycle if you ave to hit the nolv. Thats just the way I see it though.
 
bullmurf said:
Yeah bro, stick with Test Enanthate and see how your body reacts to it. 250mg twice a week. I mean, if you blow up on Test Enanthate alone, wth would you wanna spend hundreds of dollars on a bunch of other crap. I did Test Enan for my first cycle and put on 30 lbs. Cycle only lasted 8 weeks too. You wont know how your body will react to Test until you try it. Everyone is different.
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could you drop the dose down to 250 per week...I really don't want to gain 30 lb (I know everone is different), but quality, not quantity is in order for me...I am already 5'4" 190 about 10%, and want to look leaner, vascular and harder, while maybe gaining 5-10lbs at most.I've already got good symetry.
 
I ate like a horse bro. I packed on some fat but alot of muscle. I cut afterwords and lost 30 of the overall 50 lbs that I put on in 6 mos and I lost 15lbs on my bench. I was happy with it for sure.
 
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