really sore injection site

DB006

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my roommate insists in sticking himself with 1cc of prop eod in his delts, despite the fact he cant even lift his arm the next day. i say it has a lot to do with the amount of pressure trying to force it through a 25g pin. should he switch to a bigger needle or stop the delt injection altogether. it happens every time so does that rule out infection. there isnt a protruding lump but there it is rock hard under then skin. what causes this and what exactly is happening?
 
Been through the same exact thing. I would bet good money, he's just moving the pin around in his delt too much. Do an experiment, why dont you do the injection for him. Do not move the pin at all, if possible. I bet it will feel 100% better.
 
The delt is a small muscle so any injection that hurts really should go to the glutes. with an every other day injection he really should rotate sites better than just right delt one day and left the next. When I am using something that hurts, like test, I go left glute one day, then on the next injection I go right glute, then the next one I inject half into the right Vastus Lateralis (outside of the thigh) and half into the left Vastus Lateralis. If you inject all of it into one VL then you will walk with a mad limp for a couple days post injection. Anything that is foreign to the body will be attacked by the body's defences. Last time I heard, you don't have alot of sesame oil or BA/BB floating around in your body naturally. The knot that forms is from that interaction. It will go away in about 5-7 days. That is why you wanna rotate as much as possible and go in the larger muscles. Btw, the freaking 25 guage pin is too fucking small. He needs like a 22 because test is thick as glue.
 
I say either do it for him or have him go the thigh, where he can see it good and have both hands free to steady things. 23's are good for the bigger places like thighs. 25g will work, but the only oil I found to flow thru a 25g pin at a decent pace was grapeseed oil. Unless its homeaid that ain't it. 25 with oil like sesame oil take to long, gives me to much time to move the pin around, and usually becomes more pain ful then it has to be.
 
Really, I have had no problems what so ever pushing QV prop, enanthate or EQ through a 25g pin. Now drawing is a different story, lol.
 
jaywooly said:
Really, I have had no problems what so ever pushing QV prop, enanthate or EQ through a 25g pin. Now drawing is a different story, lol.


Try getting some 20g needles to use for drawing your solution. Then after you fill you pin, take the 20g off and put your 25g on. Makes drawing a lot quicker. :)
 
it may not just be the pin...prop , regardless of who makes it, is notorious for having a high BA count and popping the same sites daily may contribute to this...
 
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