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what's going on everybody? i'm new here and had a question for you all. i've never done a cycle before and was wondering if i would see any results with a cycle that would consist of the following:

enanthate 250mgs wks 1-10
eq 200mgs wks 1-10
 
Glad to have you here welcome! :wave:

How mutch do you weigh now?

to be honest thats a pretty light cycle, I dont think youd see much. but diffent people react better than others, regardless thats still a very light cycle
 
well, i'm 6'6" and weigh 230lbs....i've been lifting for about 4 years and i'm ready to add a little something besides pro-hormones. i also was going to get some primo and use it as a bridge between this cycle and another one just like it. should i just add the primo to the cycle and not use it as a bridge?
 
Oh yeah your going to need a much bigger cycle to see any results, I started at 200lb doing 500mg of test eth a week stacked with 300mg of deca and all my anti-e's like Proviron, Nolvadex ect. I didn't see much. so next cycle I upped it to 850 Test a week and stacked a few other things and saw minimal improvements after 10 weeks, Now I'm on a big 1000mg Test Eth, 200 Bold, a week and about 50mg of d-bol a day and I can now see noticeable results.

Most people I talk to don't see satisfactory results under 500-750mg of test per week, but you have to keep up on your anti-e's and do your Post Cycle right.
 
sounds good...i'll up it to 500mgs test and 400mgs bold... what are using for pct? clomid? nolva?
 
I'm using Armixex/Liquidex 1mg daily to inhibit aromatization, during my cycle.

last week of Test I start with a shot of HCG to bring everything back online, and start clomid daily for about 10 days , I save the Nolva incase I see any gyno starting, that can happen during or after a long strong cycle but nolva should knock it out.

I personally prefer to start fina the same day as post cycle to keep all my muscle gains and loose fat and water it works great for me but different ppl prefer different things as far as keeping max gains.

I think you find lots of people willing to help with info and advice here, again welcome aboard.....errr ....ummm to the board :D
 
thanks willieman! you think test/eq at 250/200 respectively is too little as well? i don't want to blow up, just make slow steady gains. my diet is damn near perfect and my training and cardio are on point as well
 
I would run the test at no less than 500mg. per week. I don't think shutting down your own test production for 250 a week is worth it.
 
CzarShel said:
Oh yeah your going to need a much bigger cycle to see any results,

Hey bro dont you thing this statement is a bit off, its his first cycle and most anyone will gain a shitload of weight 15-30lbs off of what he stated he was going to use, remeber it is his first cycle brutha

More is not always better! Until ur receptors are scorched like mine,lmao
 
Ofcourse, i dont think just cause u start off big means you'll make any less of gains from the same amount of gear a smaller guy would take, I put on 30lbs my first cycle and it was only 200mg enanthate for 10 weeks, I think if he eats like an animal he will grow like a weed from his original posted cycle, just my 2cents big guy
 
i agree with presser, its your first then that will work fine with very few sides by keeping the test dose low,diet and training make a big difference too.
i did a 8 week cycle a long time ago like that but it was 1cc of each every 4 days for 8 weeks gained 35 pounds. Pcts were still light but worked well.

I think you will do fine off of that small cycle, eat, train and grow its a supplement and will only give you as much as you put into it, its not a miracle worker, discipline your self and get motivated and you will have what you want out of it.

and welocme to the board.
 
will shooting the test and eq once a week be sufficient, or do i need to spit the eq up in two doses over the week?
 
yes it should be, if you divide it up most will say it will keep blood levels stable well that depends on absorption and eq takes a while longer. enth ester is a long acting so once a week should be fine.
if you decide to divide them its usually best for high volume shots like example 1 cc eq and 1 cc test on monday and then 1cc eq and 1cc test on friday and then again every four days instead of 4mls on the same day (just an example) with test 250mgs a week and 200mgs week EQ then same day is fine just rotate sites and you can even mix them together.

ok now i am rambling..sorry.
 
i appreciate all the help guys, but i think i've decided to switch my cycle to more of a cutter....being that it's summer and all. i think i'll save my bulker for closer to winter. what do you guys think of 400mgs eq a week and 50 mgs of oral winstrol a day...

would a cycle of..

wks 1-10 400mgs eq
wks 5-10 50mgs oral winstrol ed

look good?
 
maybe start winny at the third week and do until 10 but that works too., dont forget the pcts...and such looks good if you lower back starts to hurt lower your dose of the winny and uptake more water and use MSN or M, chondrian (jointfuel stuff)

winny makes my joints creek at that dose..lol

make up your mind man..lol
 
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