growth without insulin?

would growth without insulin be a waste of time? im not going to use insulin because of the risks, so if i used 8 iu's of growth for 3-4 months what kind of dosages and what types of gear would be best? im really looking for it to just eat fat and just the other good effects from it.

it'll definitely still work great on stripping fat, but u shouldnt be too fearfull of slin, if you understand how and what it does.
trust me you will know if you are going hypo your body gives you plenty of warning, we've all felt hypo without slin so its not like you wont know when you start to feel shaky/weak and the other many sypmtoms. and if u do...ur not gonna drop dead, just go drink half a can of coke, they give insulin to kids who are diabetic and they have to learn the symptoms just like the rest of us. can it kill u? yes. but you'd have to be a total dumbass to intentionally try to cut it that close to even be anywhere near harming yourself.

With the high ammounts of simple carbs I've been loading recently I'm going to do some slin just to balance things out, I went through a pound of dextrose in like 3 days

AZ1 said:

it'll definitely still work great on stripping fat, but u shouldnt be too fearfull of slin, if you understand how and what it does.
trust me you will know if you are going hypo your body gives you plenty of warning, we've all felt hypo without slin so its not like you wont know when you start to feel shaky/weak and the other many sypmtoms. and if u do...ur not gonna drop dead, just go drink half a can of coke, they give insulin to kids who are diabetic and they have to learn the symptoms just like the rest of us. can it kill u? yes. but you'd have to be a total dumbass to intentionally try to cut it that close to even be anywhere near harming yourself.

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well...i don't consider myself a dumbass (well sometimes i am) and i had a HELL of a time trying to run slin.

i started at 2iu's a day post workout, took in my carbs as i should, and still went hypo. in fact, i got very little from using the slin at all......it was very uneffective for myself.

i feel you have to be a certain "body type" for slin to be effective. both my training partners (they both sit around 300lbs in the off season) use it, around 10iu's post workout and made incredible gains from it, i found just the opposite and ceased using it after a couple of weeks. i got sick of going hypoglycemic if i expended ANY extra activities post shot. basically, i had to do my shot, and just sit and eat carbs for the next couple of hours, if i did any extra activity, BOOM! im hypo.

now.....

using slin with GH isn't as bad. GH makes you "hyperglycemic" which means your body needs to process more insulin while using it (GH) so insulin is an excellent hormone to use with GH.

I think you can make great progress using GH without slin. I also used slin for two cycles over a couple months time, and went hypo a couple times and just hated feeling like that. For me personally, its just not worth the risk. I did add an extra 5 lbs bodyweight, but still didn't like it. Currently using 3IU's Jintropin per day for 1.5 months now and gained about 12 lbs. I'm using it for mass, bulk, and bodyweight however. Hoping to stay on about 6 months.