Dbol dose for joint support

mikeswift

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what would be the recommended dose of Dbol to help lube the joints?
considering I'm on 600mg of EQ a week and 50mg of Winstrol ED...

and what would be a good dose to run it at while off cycle?
I've heard mixed reviews of people running 20mg a day all year long and others saying it still shuts you down even at that dose.
 
....thats news to me. Wasn't aware tht dbol lubed the joints, are you sure your not thinking of deca and dropped a zero on the dose. I've heard of 200mg deca to help joints.
 
here is agood read posted by HHH

D-bol Bridge

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"I've been reading some of the posts regarding this bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone, brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by its androgenic mode of action. Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest? Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning. This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest? Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel. (Also fat, but protein is also being converted to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us (Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)
Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode. He has just woken up. The body is about to release tesosterone, thus creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low. His LH and test levels are very low.

He pops 10mgs of dianabol. Here is where things get interesting. The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled. It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY RECOVER over time. Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss in the morning from low insulogenic levels. HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong. You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!! Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs (Probably less) 5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus, LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further, thus not allowing LH function to recover. Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.
The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up: Beginning: LOW LH and test. Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as testosterone levels are kept at a level which will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS. I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90% of the way there but the only way you're going to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely. Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM."
 
Deca is the best thing you can use for your joints bro. Ive never heard of dbol having much effect on the joints,just deca.
 
tool said:
Deca is the best thing you can use for your joints bro. Ive never heard of dbol having much effect on the joints,just deca.
deca and low dose drol..but i wouldn't mess with drol while on eq..chance of a stroke with the increases of RBC
 
i know i know i keep talking about m1t but this may be my first cycle....i want to have all the bases covered and THE BEST possible info out there
 
yeah i fucked up and wrote Dbol but I was thinking Deca... so what should my deca dose be and I guess I'll need some test to help the ole twig and berries while on deca
 
EQ will help the joint, just have to give it about 3 weeks to saturate your body. They have found that EQ actually increases your collagen syn 70% more than DECA to aide in tendon support and stength.

PJ
 
pmpjce said:
EQ will help the joint, just have to give it about 3 weeks to saturate your body. They have found that EQ actually increases your collagen syn 70% more than DECA to aide in tendon support and stength.

PJ

Maybe so, but eq will not "lube". In fact, I found just the exact opposite, eq gets to my joints after a while, almost as bad as winny.

Most people use 1-200 in there stacks if its just for lube. I would add 50 mg prop ed to that cycle if I were doing it. Add I wouldn't do it year round, unless your at the age where your on test yr round.
 
Bridging

Alot of interesting Theories on Bridging...Great post guys. I prefer Primobolan/Masteron to bridge after my PCT. Will keep alot more of your gains and allow for full recovery of natrual test production. Primobolan/Masteron also acts in solifying or hardening those gains also.
 
You want to bridge M1T with d-bol?

no bro i m wondering does taking m1t in the morning while test in high.....keep this bridge effect going...like it does dbol
 
You do not want to stack Eq and Deca bro. There are no anabolics that "lube" joints. There are some anabolics that are easier on your joints during cycle. If you want to take something that helps your joints, take glucosamine/chronjointin suppliments.
Later
 
actually deca and drol and things with high water retenton do allow for joint lubrication as the water is highly previaliant around the connective tissue...i am going to try and find some studies
 
Cordoba said:
You want to bridge M1T with d-bol? :D

No...im wondering if m1t would work in place of dbol

would my test levels PIGGYBACK if i took the m1t early.....when my test levels are at there highest...in the morning
 
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