Nandrolone - OH
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Okay, let me get this straight. They are selling real gear at pretty descent prices...$63.00 for nadrolane-OH which is suppose to be nandrolane deconate(Deca-durbolan) for below black market price and have a 1-800 number to call and order...ha!Ha! OMG!!! My brother, if you order from them let me know how it goes...But remember, MC doesn't post bonds for people in jail.
But seriously, I would be skeptical of this company for alot of reasons. One I have never heard of them. "Two" the 800 number, "three" they are selling supposedly steroids legally over the net. Now if they changed the composition of nandrolone decanate then it is no longer nadrolane deconate, the sideeffects they are clainming it not to have, Deca-durabolan(Nadrolane deconate) dosn't have those side anyway...it is not androgenic like other commonly used injectables.
But if you do decide to order, let us know how it goes. Maybe someone else has made an order from them. The information and the add is just too misleading for me to trust them.
Stay True to the Iron!!!
But seriously, I would be skeptical of this company for alot of reasons. One I have never heard of them. "Two" the 800 number, "three" they are selling supposedly steroids legally over the net. Now if they changed the composition of nandrolone decanate then it is no longer nadrolane deconate, the sideeffects they are clainming it not to have, Deca-durabolan(Nadrolane deconate) dosn't have those side anyway...it is not androgenic like other commonly used injectables.
But if you do decide to order, let us know how it goes. Maybe someone else has made an order from them. The information and the add is just too misleading for me to trust them.
Stay True to the Iron!!!
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saudades
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It is testosterone OH
I think the original poster has his info a little askew. The site sells testosterone-OH. Here is what their site says about it:
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What Is Testosterone-OH™
H.M. Gear's Testosterone-OH™ (4-Hydroxy Testosterone Decanoate) is almost identical to its "drug" counterpart Testosterone Cypionate/Enanthate but without the side-effects! Here are some specific FAQ's in regards to Testosterone-OH™:
Specific FAQ's For Testosterone-OH™
Why is your Testosterone-OH™ "safer" or "better" then regular testosterone?
Due to the addition of the hydroxyl group, our product doesn't convert to negative hormones of estrogen or dihydrotestosterone (DHT). So you will not have bloating, gyno, water retention, balding, etc. Please read the positive and negative effects of Testosterone-OH™ found below.
If it's so much safer, how come the pharmaceutical companies don't sell this compound instead of what's already on the current market?
Great question! It's really all about making money. There isn't a huge demand or need for steroids. Doctor's aren't prescribing it left and right. In fact, they can't due to its legal/illegal status. What's been around for decades (like Testosterone Cypionate) is unfortunately still being utilized today in the medical community, even though safer alternatives are available. But since there isn't a large demand for anabolic steroids, there is no need for the pharmaceutical companies to create or come out with better products. So, they simply use what they've been using for decades.
If this is "as good as" or "better" then its drug counterpart, then how come you can sell it as a supplement over the counter (OTC).
Simply due to politics and legal loopholes. How is that for honesty! But don't worry, these special "pro-hormones" will not be around forever because as we speak, the government and FDA wants to ban these type of products. One reason is they know they work and work better then their drug counterpart and now that they see money can be made, the government wants to turn them into prescription drugs so that the pharmaceutical companies and themselves can increase the prices and make money. This is why this month alone ( September ), we've seen a huge increase in sales because people want to stock up while they still can.
Will I see or feel the same effects from your Testosterone-OH™ as I would from regular Testosterone?
Yes ... it's the same, but without the water retention, so you will not gain as much "weight", but you will have the same amount of muscle gains. Most users report that our product is about 70% as strong per milligram dosage compared to regular testosterone. And this is mainly because one needs to take into account that the water retention from regular testosterone adds both "artificial" weight and strength. But again, this is very temporary and once you get off regular testosterone, you "piss" most of the weight gain away within a week or so.
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Specific & Unique Benefits Of Testosterone-OH™
HMgear.com's Testosterone-OH™ contains the main chemical called 4-hydroxytestosterone. Basically, what we have done is "tweak" the position 4 on the testosterone molecule by adding a hydroxyl group. This in turn has eliminated most of testosterone's side-effects.
* NO conversion to estrogen. Hence, NO bloat, NO water retention, NO gynocomastia, NO female fat distribution and GREATLY reduced shut down of the HPTA axis (hence, your testicles don't shrink and keep working).
* NO conversion to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Which means NO male-pattern hair loss, NO excess body hair growth and NO prostate growth.
Those are the main unique benefits of Testosterone-OH™. In fact, pharmaceutical giant Searle, filed a patent on how to manufacture this modified form of testosterone back in 1956. But luckily for us (and YOU), they never released the hormone commercially and hence, why we are able to as an OTC "supplement".
4-Hydroxy Testosterone (Patent Pending by Searle)
As stated above, Testosterone-OH™ cannot convert to estrogen. But as another benefit, it is a direct precursor to the powerful "suicide" aromatase inhibitor 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (better known as Formestane). What this means is that Testosterone-OH™ becomes the world's most potent anti-estrogenic, anabolic steroid ever created for human use.
Plus, if that isn't enough, it even has HPTA regenerative qualities. This means, when used alone, you will see and INCREASE in HPTA activity while regular testosterone decreases HPTA and shuts you down and makes your testicles shrink. There is NO testicular shrinkage with our Testosterone-OH™ compound (no more "raisin nuts" for you!)
One last benefit to keep in mind ... with the use of Testosterone-OH™, you will NOT need any of the "anti" drugs such as Arimidex, Femara, Proscar, Dutasteride, Nolvadex, Clomid, etc. This saves you hundreds of dollar each cycle ... which can easily add up to thousands saved in the course of a year. This is a HUGE benefit.
Not to mention all the hassles of getting this additional drugs ... And we won't even go in to the legality issue.
SUMMARY: Testosterone-OH™ does NOT convert to estrogen or DHT and hence, doesn't have the usual testosterone side-effects such as water retention, gynocomastia, female fat distribution, hair loss, etc. It even reduces estrogen in the body and increases HPTA which means your testicles never shrink!
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And it continues on about how it has all the positive effects but none of the negative side effects.
I have not heard of anyone taking this, and while it sounds good, I don't know if I believe their claims. They show a diagram of the chemical composition so maybe someone with a chemistry background can add some insight.
I think the original poster has his info a little askew. The site sells testosterone-OH. Here is what their site says about it:
-------
What Is Testosterone-OH™
H.M. Gear's Testosterone-OH™ (4-Hydroxy Testosterone Decanoate) is almost identical to its "drug" counterpart Testosterone Cypionate/Enanthate but without the side-effects! Here are some specific FAQ's in regards to Testosterone-OH™:
Specific FAQ's For Testosterone-OH™
Why is your Testosterone-OH™ "safer" or "better" then regular testosterone?
Due to the addition of the hydroxyl group, our product doesn't convert to negative hormones of estrogen or dihydrotestosterone (DHT). So you will not have bloating, gyno, water retention, balding, etc. Please read the positive and negative effects of Testosterone-OH™ found below.
If it's so much safer, how come the pharmaceutical companies don't sell this compound instead of what's already on the current market?
Great question! It's really all about making money. There isn't a huge demand or need for steroids. Doctor's aren't prescribing it left and right. In fact, they can't due to its legal/illegal status. What's been around for decades (like Testosterone Cypionate) is unfortunately still being utilized today in the medical community, even though safer alternatives are available. But since there isn't a large demand for anabolic steroids, there is no need for the pharmaceutical companies to create or come out with better products. So, they simply use what they've been using for decades.
If this is "as good as" or "better" then its drug counterpart, then how come you can sell it as a supplement over the counter (OTC).
Simply due to politics and legal loopholes. How is that for honesty! But don't worry, these special "pro-hormones" will not be around forever because as we speak, the government and FDA wants to ban these type of products. One reason is they know they work and work better then their drug counterpart and now that they see money can be made, the government wants to turn them into prescription drugs so that the pharmaceutical companies and themselves can increase the prices and make money. This is why this month alone ( September ), we've seen a huge increase in sales because people want to stock up while they still can.
Will I see or feel the same effects from your Testosterone-OH™ as I would from regular Testosterone?
Yes ... it's the same, but without the water retention, so you will not gain as much "weight", but you will have the same amount of muscle gains. Most users report that our product is about 70% as strong per milligram dosage compared to regular testosterone. And this is mainly because one needs to take into account that the water retention from regular testosterone adds both "artificial" weight and strength. But again, this is very temporary and once you get off regular testosterone, you "piss" most of the weight gain away within a week or so.
[snip]
Specific & Unique Benefits Of Testosterone-OH™
HMgear.com's Testosterone-OH™ contains the main chemical called 4-hydroxytestosterone. Basically, what we have done is "tweak" the position 4 on the testosterone molecule by adding a hydroxyl group. This in turn has eliminated most of testosterone's side-effects.
* NO conversion to estrogen. Hence, NO bloat, NO water retention, NO gynocomastia, NO female fat distribution and GREATLY reduced shut down of the HPTA axis (hence, your testicles don't shrink and keep working).
* NO conversion to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Which means NO male-pattern hair loss, NO excess body hair growth and NO prostate growth.
Those are the main unique benefits of Testosterone-OH™. In fact, pharmaceutical giant Searle, filed a patent on how to manufacture this modified form of testosterone back in 1956. But luckily for us (and YOU), they never released the hormone commercially and hence, why we are able to as an OTC "supplement".
4-Hydroxy Testosterone (Patent Pending by Searle)
As stated above, Testosterone-OH™ cannot convert to estrogen. But as another benefit, it is a direct precursor to the powerful "suicide" aromatase inhibitor 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (better known as Formestane). What this means is that Testosterone-OH™ becomes the world's most potent anti-estrogenic, anabolic steroid ever created for human use.
Plus, if that isn't enough, it even has HPTA regenerative qualities. This means, when used alone, you will see and INCREASE in HPTA activity while regular testosterone decreases HPTA and shuts you down and makes your testicles shrink. There is NO testicular shrinkage with our Testosterone-OH™ compound (no more "raisin nuts" for you!)
One last benefit to keep in mind ... with the use of Testosterone-OH™, you will NOT need any of the "anti" drugs such as Arimidex, Femara, Proscar, Dutasteride, Nolvadex, Clomid, etc. This saves you hundreds of dollar each cycle ... which can easily add up to thousands saved in the course of a year. This is a HUGE benefit.
Not to mention all the hassles of getting this additional drugs ... And we won't even go in to the legality issue.
SUMMARY: Testosterone-OH™ does NOT convert to estrogen or DHT and hence, doesn't have the usual testosterone side-effects such as water retention, gynocomastia, female fat distribution, hair loss, etc. It even reduces estrogen in the body and increases HPTA which means your testicles never shrink!
[snip]
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And it continues on about how it has all the positive effects but none of the negative side effects.
I have not heard of anyone taking this, and while it sounds good, I don't know if I believe their claims. They show a diagram of the chemical composition so maybe someone with a chemistry background can add some insight.
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Okay, I've done a little more research, and there is a nandrolone-oh. I just didn't see it available on HM Gear's own site. Got some info on it from bodybuilding.com:
H.M. Gear Presents:
Nandrolone-OH
4-HydroxyNandrolone Decanoate!
A Great Prohormone That Gives You Amazing Gains!
The drug known as nandrolone or 19-Nortestosterone (also known commercially as Deca-Durabolin) has the IUPAC name 17b-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one, and is an anabolic steroid which occurs naturally in the human body, but only in tiny quantities (pregnant women actually make their own nandrolone during pregnancy). It is very similar in structure to the male hormone testosterone, and has many of the same effects in terms of increasing muscle mass, without some of the more unwanted side-effects such as increased body hair or aggressive behavior.
In fact, one of the reasons Nandrolone was created was because scientists were looking to improve Testosterone's ANABOLIC qualities (positive effects) while reducing its ANDROGENIC qualities (negative effects). They have succeeded well as "Deca" is one of the most popular steroids ever created ... simply because it works so well.
Positive Effects Of Nandrolone
Here's a brief summary:
* Significant anabolic qualities (more so then testosterone).
* High quality (but slow) lean tissue gains.
* Excellent post-cycle lean mass retention.
* Low-moderate water retention.
* Low aromatization to estrogens (about 20% that of testosterone).
* Does not negatively effect HDL.
* Moderate strength and weight gain.
* Noted improvement in joint/soft tissue function.
* Excellent protein sparing/anti-catabolic qualities.
* Inhibition of fat synthesis.
* Increased metabolic rate.
* Does not reduce to DHT (Dihydrotestosterone)
* Very low-moderate HPTA function inhibition. (Dose Dependent)
* Increased muscle glycogen synthesis.
* Increased Creatine Phosphate (CP) synthesis.
* Reduction in total triglyceride and cholesterol levels.
* Beneficial/improved insulin metabolism.
Negative Effects Of Nandrolone
Nandrolone has very low side-effects, but one of its side-effects (lowered sex drive) can be pretty bad for some ... enough that most people think twice about using it and/or have to use other drugs along with it to combat the potential impotency.
* Poor protection from over training.
* Most males experienced decreased libido, especially when used alone (Not true for women)
* Inhibition of HPTA function at dosages in excess of 400 MG weekly.
* Converts to DHN or Nor-Dihydrotestosterone, rather then DHT as testosterone does.
* Has high progestin-like activity which can cause bloating, water retention and even gynocomastia
If it wasn't for the progesterone related side-effects, nandrolone would probably be the MOST PERFECT steroid ever created. But unlike testosterone's side-effects which can be combated with "anti" drugs such anti-estrogens and anti-DHT drugs, there is no real "progesterone inhibitor" drug on the market.
Well, there is one - RU486, which is the "abortion" drug. But it's extremely hard on the body, very difficult to obtain, super expensive and of course, ILLEGAL to use or poses!
Benefits Of HMgear.com's Nandrolone-OH Compound
HMgear.com's Nandrolone-OH contains the main chemical called 4-hydroxyNandrolone. Basically, what we have done is "tweak" the position 4 on the Nandrolone molecule by adding a hydroxyl group. This in turn has eliminated most of Nandrolone's side-effects.
* NO conversion to estrogen. Hence, NO bloat, NO water retention, NO gynocomastia, NO female fat distribution and GREATLY reduced shut down of the HPTA axis (hence, your testicles don't shrink and keep working).
* NO conversion to progesterone or progestin activity. Hence, NO more worries about lowered sex drive or the dreaded "deca dick".
* NO conversion to dihydroNandrolone (DHN). Which means NO male-pattern hair loss and NO excess body hair growth.
Those are the main benefits of Nandrolone-OH. Simply put, you will get regular "Deca", but without any of its side-effects. That's it!
How Does Nandrolone-OH Compare To Regular Deca
Nandrolone-OH (4-Hydroxynandrolone) supplies the anabolic potential of Deca Durabolin™ without the unwanted side effects or loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, gynocomastia, and bloating. This is because it cannot directly convert to neither progesterone nor estrogen due to the 4-hydroxylation.
Furthermore the 4-hydroxylation increases the compounds anabolic to androgenic ratio as the compound has a very low androgenicity making it a more therapeutic and safer compound to use than its better known cousin nandrolone decanoate/Deca Durabolin.
But keep in mind that due to the lack of water weight gain from the estrogen and progesterone, you will NOT notice as much "size" or "strength". Even though you will most likely put on the same amount of fat-free muscle mass.
So far, the general feedback from our users is that Nandrolone-OH is about 75% as effective as regular Nandrolone. So, if one regular uses 750 mgs of Nandrolone Cypionate for example, now you would use about 1000 mgs of Nandrolone-OH to receive the same physical benefits.
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H.M. Gear Presents:
Nandrolone-OH
4-HydroxyNandrolone Decanoate!
A Great Prohormone That Gives You Amazing Gains!
The drug known as nandrolone or 19-Nortestosterone (also known commercially as Deca-Durabolin) has the IUPAC name 17b-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one, and is an anabolic steroid which occurs naturally in the human body, but only in tiny quantities (pregnant women actually make their own nandrolone during pregnancy). It is very similar in structure to the male hormone testosterone, and has many of the same effects in terms of increasing muscle mass, without some of the more unwanted side-effects such as increased body hair or aggressive behavior.
In fact, one of the reasons Nandrolone was created was because scientists were looking to improve Testosterone's ANABOLIC qualities (positive effects) while reducing its ANDROGENIC qualities (negative effects). They have succeeded well as "Deca" is one of the most popular steroids ever created ... simply because it works so well.
Positive Effects Of Nandrolone
Here's a brief summary:
* Significant anabolic qualities (more so then testosterone).
* High quality (but slow) lean tissue gains.
* Excellent post-cycle lean mass retention.
* Low-moderate water retention.
* Low aromatization to estrogens (about 20% that of testosterone).
* Does not negatively effect HDL.
* Moderate strength and weight gain.
* Noted improvement in joint/soft tissue function.
* Excellent protein sparing/anti-catabolic qualities.
* Inhibition of fat synthesis.
* Increased metabolic rate.
* Does not reduce to DHT (Dihydrotestosterone)
* Very low-moderate HPTA function inhibition. (Dose Dependent)
* Increased muscle glycogen synthesis.
* Increased Creatine Phosphate (CP) synthesis.
* Reduction in total triglyceride and cholesterol levels.
* Beneficial/improved insulin metabolism.
Negative Effects Of Nandrolone
Nandrolone has very low side-effects, but one of its side-effects (lowered sex drive) can be pretty bad for some ... enough that most people think twice about using it and/or have to use other drugs along with it to combat the potential impotency.
* Poor protection from over training.
* Most males experienced decreased libido, especially when used alone (Not true for women)
* Inhibition of HPTA function at dosages in excess of 400 MG weekly.
* Converts to DHN or Nor-Dihydrotestosterone, rather then DHT as testosterone does.
* Has high progestin-like activity which can cause bloating, water retention and even gynocomastia
If it wasn't for the progesterone related side-effects, nandrolone would probably be the MOST PERFECT steroid ever created. But unlike testosterone's side-effects which can be combated with "anti" drugs such anti-estrogens and anti-DHT drugs, there is no real "progesterone inhibitor" drug on the market.
Well, there is one - RU486, which is the "abortion" drug. But it's extremely hard on the body, very difficult to obtain, super expensive and of course, ILLEGAL to use or poses!
Benefits Of HMgear.com's Nandrolone-OH Compound
HMgear.com's Nandrolone-OH contains the main chemical called 4-hydroxyNandrolone. Basically, what we have done is "tweak" the position 4 on the Nandrolone molecule by adding a hydroxyl group. This in turn has eliminated most of Nandrolone's side-effects.
* NO conversion to estrogen. Hence, NO bloat, NO water retention, NO gynocomastia, NO female fat distribution and GREATLY reduced shut down of the HPTA axis (hence, your testicles don't shrink and keep working).
* NO conversion to progesterone or progestin activity. Hence, NO more worries about lowered sex drive or the dreaded "deca dick".
* NO conversion to dihydroNandrolone (DHN). Which means NO male-pattern hair loss and NO excess body hair growth.
Those are the main benefits of Nandrolone-OH. Simply put, you will get regular "Deca", but without any of its side-effects. That's it!
How Does Nandrolone-OH Compare To Regular Deca
Nandrolone-OH (4-Hydroxynandrolone) supplies the anabolic potential of Deca Durabolin™ without the unwanted side effects or loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, gynocomastia, and bloating. This is because it cannot directly convert to neither progesterone nor estrogen due to the 4-hydroxylation.
Furthermore the 4-hydroxylation increases the compounds anabolic to androgenic ratio as the compound has a very low androgenicity making it a more therapeutic and safer compound to use than its better known cousin nandrolone decanoate/Deca Durabolin.
But keep in mind that due to the lack of water weight gain from the estrogen and progesterone, you will NOT notice as much "size" or "strength". Even though you will most likely put on the same amount of fat-free muscle mass.
So far, the general feedback from our users is that Nandrolone-OH is about 75% as effective as regular Nandrolone. So, if one regular uses 750 mgs of Nandrolone Cypionate for example, now you would use about 1000 mgs of Nandrolone-OH to receive the same physical benefits.
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