HCG or clomid after Winny cycle???

swole27

New member

• Sep 21, 2004

• #1

hypothetically... 4-6 week cycle... 50 mgs every other day...

from what i understand is it does not effect the testicular axis...

so does that mean i do not have to take HCG or clomid???

Thanks

 

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carlsky

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• Sep 21, 2004

• #2

neither, winny is a pure anabolic therefore it will NOT shut you down. Ya don't need it.

 

saturn1

Member

• Sep 21, 2004

• #3

There is not an anabolic/adrogen that wont shut you down to some degree. I use them both........... 500 i.u. HCG eod and 50mg clomid ed for 3-4 weeks after a cycle.

 

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Lord Odin

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• Sep 21, 2004

• #4

Always do your PCT, good effort with trying to help Carlsky, it is nice to see members like yourself taking an active role in the board and answering questions...Especially since most of your info is right on point..

 

MMX2

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• Sep 21, 2004

• #5

Lord Odin said:

Always do your PCT, good effort with trying to help Carlsky, it is nice to see members like yourself taking an active role in the board and answering questions...Especially since most of your info is right on point..

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I am definitely with you there- even if you don't need it, it won't hurt.

 

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carlsky

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• Sep 22, 2004

• #6

primo,anavar,and winstrol WILL NOT shut you down. This is also the reason why people bridge with them. Winny is almost no androgenic, if any. Androgenic part of steroids is what shuts you down. I have done winny and primo 4 months ago without any pct and I still have most of my gains and I am not shut down at all.

 

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carlsky

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• Sep 22, 2004

• #7

primo,anavar,and winstrol WILL NOT shut you down. This is also the reason why people bridge with them. Winny is almost no androgenic, if any. Androgenic part of steroids is what shuts you down. I have done winny and primo 4 months ago without any pct and I still have most of my gains and I am not shut down at all. Thanks lordy!

 

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Interficium

Banana

• Sep 22, 2004

• #8

From my experience winny does shut one down. Even oxandrolone at 30mg ED for six weeks did that to me. Obviously that the post cycle recovery period isn't nearly as long or hard as a convetional cycle. I wouldn't be surprised if you felt shutdown after the cycle.

 

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mikeswift

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• Sep 22, 2004

• #9

at 50mg EOD I would taper personally. I agree it won't shut you down and years ago before there was so much info and drugs for PCT this is what most of us did. Just taper off of winny. Hell I even know guys who used to use Winny as there PCT

 

MMX2

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• Sep 22, 2004

• #10

carlsky said:

primo,anavar,and winstrol WILL NOT shut you down. This is also the reason why people bridge with them. Winny is almost no androgenic, if any. Androgenic part of steroids is what shuts you down. I have done winny and primo 4 months ago without any pct and I still have most of my gains and I am not shut down at all.

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You have to understand-- what L.O and I state comes from years and years and years of experience and I will tell you its better to make it a practice to do PCT.
You have no issue with it but I have known some that do therefore its always best to do PCT. That is my two cents...

 

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carlsky

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• Sep 22, 2004

• #11

oh yes, your absolutly right. I just think that these aren't suppressive or, as these guys say, not quite as suppressive.

 

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fun28hi

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• Sep 23, 2004

• #12

always better to be safe then sorry

 

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carlsky

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• Sep 23, 2004

• #13

I ldefinatley learn the hard way on my first cycle of test and d-bol! I actually turned out to be smaller than before I started the cycle because I didn't use pct!

 

saturn1

Member

• Sep 23, 2004

• #14

I get shut down from winny at 50mg and primo also......not quite sure bout the var im doing at 25mg/day........It's dose related and possibly differs by individual.....Low doses really effect me like large doses in most people.

After 10 years of use im sure they do suppress to some degree in my system.......No where near as harsh as tren or deca to me.

 

DB006

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• Sep 23, 2004

• #15

so whats the standard procedure for pct? is there one? what should you take and for how long?

 

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mikeswift

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• Sep 23, 2004

• #16

There is a powerful source- it's called the Search button...

here's some more Winny PCT info:
http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28427&highlight=clomid+dose

DB006 - Post Cycle Therapy info is widely avialable on this site and many others. You need to take Clomid @ used 50 mg/day post cycle for 3 weeks will get your body back to normal levels. Some like to load up on the first day with 150mg and this varies by person and cycle.