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I am new to this chat stuff. I am 6' 0'' tall about 190 lbs 9 % body fat. I was wanting to know what I should expect from a ten week cycle of D-bol and winstrol. What would be the best way to take it to loose body fat and gain at the same time or is that even possible?

For one, I would not mix two orals and I woudl not choose winny and dbol to run together. Tell us more about yourself. I would also focus one gaining muscle or losing BF. It is really difficult for a newbie to focus on both and you end up half-assing both in the end.
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welcome! like mmx2 said give us some more info about yourself!

bumpin the fellas...and welcome anything i can help you with let me know bud

I am 21 I have been lifting serously for about the last four years. I started in high school when I learned what wrestling was and I started out a tub of lard at 230 freshman year and by my senior year I was at 140 of lean muscle. That is when I started lfting for the look and physique. Now I work out with a three day split chest bi's on day, back shoulders tri's, and last a heavey lift day for legs, day off and start all over agian. I am looking at gaining another ten puonds of muscle but I really want to keep my body fat down I hate that bloated fat man look.

well bro two 17aa are not gonna do your body any good besides hurt your liver and upset your stomach bro.
This can be long term, do not use two orals like this.
I am sure these guys can give you some decent advise, bro. as for me I wont unless you ask, I like to learn what a guys knows and if he asks then he is serious about it and really cares.
as for your training regimn and diet losing that much from your frame is impressive however, you need a little education on substances you wish to try.

Diet must be clean, keep all fats, sugars and carbonated drinks to a very min.

Cardio must be incorporated somewhere, to lose fat, respiratory health and heart health.

Water drink plenty not just for your health but to maintain metobolism.

eat small meals reguarlry not big ones to fill you up, always be hungry kinda.

Cardio and extra excercise do in the monrings if at all possible.

And most of all do your homework on these substances bro they can be very harmful if used together, please reconsider this and post what the guys ask, they are here to help you make right choices at least if you must make those choices.
Good luck bro

Welcome to MC hope you stay and continue to grow and learn.

Before I take anything I do my homework. Right now I am in school majoring in Sports management with an emphasis in personal training. I just wanted to know about other peoples experience with these drugs so i no what to expect.

liver damage, cramps, stiff joints, and water retention in the face,legs abdomen, and also stress on the kidneys and stomach bile built up too, some lethargy.
Thats what i have heard on misguided guys who took both of those in one cycle and not doing just one.

dbol is a great mass builder......winny has hard lean gains with it......i wouldn't mix them as mmx said but i really like the two compounds individually......always with some test though

Crimsonsweat said:

well bro two 17aa are not gonna do your body any good besides hurt your liver and upset your stomach bro.
This can be long term, do not use two orals like this.
I am sure these guys can give you some decent advise, bro. as for me I wont unless you ask, I like to learn what a guys knows and if he asks then he is serious about it and really cares.
as for your training regimn and diet losing that much from your frame is impressive however, you need a little education on substances you wish to try.

Diet must be clean, keep all fats, sugars and carbonated drinks to a very min.

Cardio must be incorporated somewhere, to lose fat, respiratory health and heart health.

Water drink plenty not just for your health but to maintain metobolism.

eat small meals reguarlry not big ones to fill you up, always be hungry kinda.

Cardio and extra excercise do in the monrings if at all possible.

And most of all do your homework on these substances bro they can be very harmful if used together, please reconsider this and post what the guys ask, they are here to help you make right choices at least if you must make those choices.
Good luck bro

Welcome to MC hope you stay and continue to grow and learn.

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welcome to Muscle Chemistry bro, these guys have hit it on the head!!!

welcome bro'...Crimsonsweat has pretty much narrowed it down for ya' Bignick suggested doing either one with some test thats the best way to go but you need to figure out exactly what you want. There are some real good threads on here about first time cycles...do a search and reaad up on some of them if they dont answer your questions any better then continue asking there is a lot of knowledge and wisdom here for the taking you just have to read up and ask...good luck.

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