GYNO and m1t ?

GrChRampage

GrChRampage

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i've been doing alot of research on m1t and from my understanding you dont have to worry about tits till your done . some guys say do clomid pct some say 60x0 some say nolvadex or other things. i have clomid and i know its great for pct but from doing cycles before i used clomid at the end and nolvadex for itchy tits in between. i dont want to start the cycle finish it start pct the day after and get tits a couple days after if you know what i mean . any guys who did m1t-4ad stack and just used clomid therapy ? thanks guys
 
I've been lucky enough to never have a problem with Gyno. Some guy's are more prone to it than others. Now male pattern baldness is another story, LOL. You should be ok with clomid PCT, but it never hurts to have nolva on hand.
 
i had that same problem, its possible to get gyno from the m1t's, trust me i know, but you need to run your pct and make sure that it does the trick, if i were you make sure you have an extra bottle on hand for the pct, you don't want lumps, thats for sure!!!!
 
zylo: if he has a predisposition to getting gyno don't you think running nolvadex during cycle would be effective? With any test product for that matter?
 
If he's prone to getting gyno, yes, run it with any steroid that converts from testosterone to estrogen. M1T isn't one of them though.

It's my understanding that your estrogen levels are only high after you finish a cycle of M1T. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind running the Nolvadex during cycle? Was there a different reason for using the Nolvadex that I'm not aware of?
 
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Do peoples boobies ever stay all swollen and stuff ??
Like do you need surgery sometimes to fix them ???

Sorry this may be a dumb question but i want to know
haha
 
fitchick said:
Do peoples boobies ever stay all swollen and stuff ??
Like do you need surgery sometimes to fix them ???

Sorry this may be a dumb question but i want to know
haha
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Yes, sometimes people get surgery if they get gyno.
 
Zylo, i definately got my case of the lumps from the m1t because the last cycle i did was (AAS) more than a year ago. I ran a couple cycles of m1t for 6 weeks at a time and followed with clomid and nolva on each.......i am pretty posotive that i did get the case of the lumps from the m1t. But i have heard the claims that m1t doesn't aromatize...so i dunno
 
HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus estrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.

In other words, do not use clomid and hcg for pct...HCG is meant to be used during cycle for two reasons:

1) Avoid testicular atrophy, or
2) Rectify the problem of an existing testicular atrophy.

Clomid or Nolvadex should be fine for PCT, maybe even some Tribulus and ZMA to boot
 
Zy,

No i didn't get them during my m1t cycle, and i understand your poiont about during cycle not getting gyno, so yes i feel zylo is right. But i was misled on the issue that you couldn't get lumps from m1t period. So yes zylo is right, but i am not sure to the severity of the spiking of your test levels and rising of your estrogen levels post cycle on m1t. But there is not doubt that i did get my case of gyno from the m1t.

so to answer the question zylo...yes i did get them post cycle on my m1t only cycle. SORRY IF I MADE THIS ALL CONFUSING
 
Yes, that's why I'm still asking why anyone would need Nolvadex DURING an M1T cycle........ Seems kind of pointless to me.
 
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