Gonna Start Cutting Soon, Any Help?

I'm 5'9'' 260 lbs and going to try to lose around 20 lbs in 8 wks or so, heres the plan:

Ok, going to start an 8 week cutting cycle with T-3 and Liqua-Clen, and need some help as far as a cycle. Here's what I have planned so far:

Gonna use T-3 for the duration of cycle and ramping up starting from 25/mcg every 7 days till I reach 100/mcg and staying at 100/mcg for 2 total weeks before ramping back down 25/mcg a week.

and going to do liqua-clen 2 wks on and 2 wks off. Ramp up starting at 20 mcg and ramp up to either 120 mcg or 140 mcg. One question is should i ramp up and down each 2 wks i'm on the clen? Or do I just ramp up the first 4-5 days and stay at the max dosage until the end of the 2 wk cycle and then for the next 2 wk cycle that i'm on, I just simply start at the max dosage?

Question is, should i use an ECA stack during the 2 wks I have off, if so; is it ok to use the ECA minus the Aspirin?

And for my EC stack i'm going use 50 mg ephedrine and 400 mg Caffein 3 times daily...

So how does this look? Any info would be much appreciated.

That is a pretty ambitious plan---
How about detailing your diet plan? Without that, it is very difficult to really offer advice. Also I would seriously reconsider using the T3 without any AS- I would advise against it especially if you are doing this naturally. Also what does your cardio plan look like?
How about some more information?

Allright, you want to pyrimad your clen everytime that way your body doesnt crash from the sudden drop. You should also not take anything in between. Your body will need the time off and it will help with the effectiveness since your recpetors need that time to recoop.

The amount of weight you wanna drop is pushing the limits, in all honesty i never drop more than 2 pounds a week . Not to mention that if you drop to much to fast you'll sacrifice muscle and thats not what ya want to do.

Big BUMP to MMX2 your diet is gonna be responsible for 80% of your sucess or your failure. Also for cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach to really burn that fat off is the best way to go b/c ur body has been fasting for 8 hours and it has no carb stores to feed from so you'll burn fat quicker than if you wiat and do it later in the day.

And we need more info to help ya

I agree with the boyz on this 100%! I'd like to add that those drugs should be used to remove the last little bit of stubborn fat and not the basis of weight loss.

Are you eating 6meals per day? If not your making the biggest mistake you can on BF %.

Are you eating your protein equally divided among the 6 meals, if not your making the second largest mistake on Body composition.

If you've got the want to, we can help you get the bf% down without the drugs and make you more healthy in the process.

Good luck bro, i have nothing to add but other than wish you the best in your cutting cycle...MMX2, Fonz, and machine have it down to the point...

UCDFuBoO said:

I'm 5'9'' 260 lbs and going to try to lose around 20 lbs in 8 wks or so, heres the plan:

Ok, going to start an 8 week cutting cycle with T-3 and Liqua-Clen, and need some help as far as a cycle. Here's what I have planned so far:

Gonna use T-3 for the duration of cycle and ramping up starting from 25/mcg every 7 days till I reach 100/mcg and staying at 100/mcg for 2 total weeks before ramping back down 25/mcg a week.

and going to do liqua-clen 2 wks on and 2 wks off. Ramp up starting at 20 mcg and ramp up to either 120 mcg or 140 mcg. One question is should i ramp up and down each 2 wks i'm on the clen? Or do I just ramp up the first 4-5 days and stay at the max dosage until the end of the 2 wk cycle and then for the next 2 wk cycle that i'm on, I just simply start at the max dosage?

Question is, should i use an ECA stack during the 2 wks I have off, if so; is it ok to use the ECA minus the Aspirin?

And for my EC stack i'm going use 50 mg ephedrine and 400 mg Caffein 3 times daily...

So how does this look? Any info would be much appreciated.

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I would run the max doses of clen to the end, no ramping down. Then on the next two weeks, I may start a little higher but still ramp up just a bit. Listen to your body, if you think you could start off at the max doses, go for it.

You could use the ECA w/o the A but why? You know how cheap aspirin is?

Diet is going to be key here (as you know). Looks like you've done your research - so good luch bro. So how 'bout them Warriors?

OK got some great feedback from you guys, tanx for the info guys; and here's some more background info on me so we know what we're working with..

I've been working out seriously for over 4 yrs now, have done a cycle of 1-ad stacked with 4-ad, and had some great gains on that cycle. My bf% right now is around 16%-17% and i've done many bulking and cutting cycles during my time.

Naturally, I would lose about 5 lbs a month so with the drugs I would think it would be very feasible to double that, don't you think? And I understand that at that rate, you're probably going to lose some muscle and I'm fine with that; I mean u gotta break some eggs to make an omellette right? I'm not a hard gainer, so I'm not too woried about losing a little muscle.

Cardio is done 4 days a week, 45 min in the morning on an empty stomach and 30 min at end of day after my workout. I eat about 2000-2200 cal and try to get atleast 1.25 grams of fat per lb.

So looks llike what i'm going to do is just drop the ECA stack, and not do it during the 2 wks i'm off of clen. Going to ramp the clen up and stay at the max dosage until my last 2 wks on and ramp down for the final week.

any more info would be greatly appreciated...

and Jay, what do u mean by how about them warriors? I'm from sac, Kings fan over here bro!!

Diet is the main ingredent. I would focus on getting good amounts of quality fats in with every meal with the exeption of the post workout meal as the fonz points out so often.

CYPHON said:

Diet is the main ingredent. I would focus on getting good amounts of quality fats in with every meal with the exeption of the post workout meal as the fonz points out so often.

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bump...read some of fonz;s threads about fats etc

I cant stress fats enough. There just as important as anything else you put in your mouth. You need to include EFA's (essential fatty acids). They will help burn fat, give your energy, and keep you satiated.

I agree that EFA's are very important, but, I still try and keep those seperate from my carb meals. In other words I do Fat/protein meals, and carb/ protein meals to the best of my ability when leaning out.

I usually take my EFA's in the afternoon to the evening after my carb cutoff. I def agree with ya there EM

UCDFuBoO said:

and Jay, what do u mean by how about them warriors? I'm from sac, Kings fan over here bro!!

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I remember a post last year from you when I was bashing my team (the Warriors) and you stuck up for them.

How'd you like that last game though, took you guys OT to beat the lowly Warriors!!! Good to see you back here posting bro.

I am finishing off the last two weeks of a bulking cycle with an effort to cut some of the fat that I put on. I was on Sust (750 MG/wk) and Eq (600 mg/wk) for eight weeks, and then I shifted to Masteron (500 mg/wk) and oral Winnie (400 MG/wk) for the next four weeks.

Two weeks from the end I added clen (ramping to 150 mcg) and T3 and I literally lost a pound a day. Now some of that was probably water, but I lost an inch off my waist and I can now see my abs.

I have to admit I didnt' think that I would lose this much and it alarmed me a bit at first. Then again, I went from eating 4000 cals per day to 2200 cals per day.

So, losing 20 pounds might not be unrealistic.

I hope you scaled down to that caloire amount or that sudden drop would def cause alot of muscle loss.