winny/prop/clen

What would be the perfect winny/prop/clen cycle look like? Im at about 13%BF right now and would like to get at about 11 or so.. im 6'0 and 185, I really dont want to weigh more than 195. I was thinking
winny 50mg ED
prop 100 EOD
clen 60mcg ED
all for 8 weeks
I know this is rough, any suggestions? I know brew and irishpride will chime in, yall have been a lot of help!

Take away the clen and add tren. Like this....

50mg Winny ed
100mg Prop eod
150mg Tren eod

or

50mg winny ed
100mg Prop ed
75mg Tren ed

I prefer number two. ED injects with tren are better. You will gain nothing but clean lean body mass on this cycle for 6 weeks, if your diet is right. You can gain 10lbs of lean mass easily on this. The clen will just dry you up, flatten you out and dehydrate you, not to mention ruin your appetite, but it will get rid of the fat. I personally don't like taking clen DURING cycle, I use it in PCT if I use it at all. The tren will keep you anabolic while you are eating less calories (if thats your plan) instead of going catabolic. If you do decide to do clen though, pyramid up and down, don't do 60mcg all the way, and 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is the normal protocol. 40,40,60,60,80,80,100,100,80,80,60,60,40,40

Just my .02

that sounds great bro. doses and everything look good. i have not used clen before, but i know brew and some others have so maybe they can chime in on that. i think you said you were trying to go a little cheaper on this, but i think you would really like a winny/prop/tren/clen cutter too. if that is something you wanted to do i would suggest the tren @ 75mg eod along with the prop.

bump those two, good info. I like cannons #2, if you want you could cut the tren down to 50 ED or 100 EOD just about the same damn thing, although I do pefer ED. You gotta find your threshold with clen, what I can take may make you shake like a whore in church. I would test the waters and try to get up near 100 if possible, but again its what you can comfortable handle.

Yeah personally i would stick to 50mg ED for the tren and def 100mg ED for the prop and 50mg ED for the winny.

I would say run Ephedrine Sulfat with it instead. It'll help with your breathing and endurance and canbe run for the whole 8 weeks and it wont give ya the jitters. Ephedrine and clen are very simialr except that one binds perfectly and one binds okay which allows you to run it longer. Also clen wont help your VO2 max and ephedrine will. Just my opinion but i luv Ephedrine.

BUMP...
Will Prop weeks 1-8 and winny weeks 3-11 do the trick?
OR should I just run the winny and prop weeks 1-8?
PCT, nolvadex will be 40mg week after prop, 30 second week after end use of prop, and 20 mg the 4th week off of prop.
Need any clomid?
Any special things to think about? Tribulus? ZMA? Maybe creatine?
Thanks!

if you are going to use prop for 8wks then yes it will shut you down and you will need pct. I would not run the winny for 8wks its too much stress on your liver. I would run it for 4 weeks or 6 tops. some run winny at the biggining or at the end. I think at the end better. imo

Im planning on Clomid at 50mgED for 4 weeks after and Femera at 2.5mg EOD during the whole cycle, along with some Liv 52, that oughtta do the trick!

bro, unless something has changed I feel clomid for 4 weeks its too much. This is how I take it.
Day 1 300mgs
2-6 100mg
7-14 50mgs

But if some one told you different and it was one of the mods. Then go with what they told you.

I got that info from MMX2! I dont think you can be too careful, can you?

TheElmo said:

bro, unless something has changed I feel clomid for 4 weeks its too much. This is how I take it.
Day 1 300mgs
2-6 100mg
7-14 50mgs

But if some one told you different and it was one of the mods. Then go with what they told you.

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SC,
Here is what I assumed- I was guessing that you were older like me( 39 ) , but if you are not I apologize.
I like to run 4 weeks of clomid beause it takes me a little longer and it doesn't hurt.
I will be honest with you, you can run the standard PCT clomid and it will be just fine:

week 1- 50mg/ED
week 2- 100mg/ED
week 3- 50mg/ED

IMHO, I get nothing from 300mg except more sides and I don't really want that.
I know some guys that do 300mg- they read it on a board, but the traditional way works well for most.
Hope that clears it up.

Thats a big 10-4 MMX2! I sure do appreciate ya following up on that one there buddy! Will keep ya posted!

bump 300 is an overkill. I remember reading a study on another board that your body can't absorb that much in a 24 hr period. I go with 100 for a wk then 2 more of 50, works good for me

You can run winny for 8 weeks, there no reaon why you cant although your joints may not like you very much but it can be done. I wouldnt recommend running it for longer than that but for me 6 weeks is the norm. Just take the proper precautions and you'll be fine.