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It's a pro-thyroid. It actually has a very safe drug and has been researched for over 30 years with very little to report on negative sides even with long term use.
Heres an old article from the days syntrax used to sell the product as "triac"
What is Triac? Triac is what I like to call a thyroidal nutrient or a thyroidal pro-hormone. Just as we have steroidal nutrients like 19-Norandrostenediol, we now have access to equally effective thyroid nutrients or pro-hormones. To make things simple, Triac is not a hormone but instead a naturally occurring degradation product of your own T3 with some pretty fantastic metabolic effects.
The great thing about Triac is that it is sold as a fat loss drug around the world under the name Triacana. Triacana is indicated for conditions of obesity and for reducing subcutaneous fat stores-especially areas of cellulite. Hopefully, the name Triacana will ring some bells with at least a few of you bodybuilders out there. This drug has been vigorously imported from Europe and other parts of the world for its ability to make a person ripped and shredded. Many of the ultra shredded, ultra cut physiques you see in the professional bodybuilding circles became this way only by religiously using the drug as part of their dieting regimen. Fortunately, upon my extensive investigation, I found that Triac is not considered a drug in the U.S. and can be legally sold as a dietary supplement.
There are many reasons why Triac is nearly a perfect supplement. First, let me explain the safety profile. Triac is one of the most well studied and safe compounds ever sold as a drug. Triac has been sold as a legitimate pharmaceutical in various countries for the last several decades. In this time, there have been almost no reported negative side effects associated with its use. The only people who should be careful with Triac and should seek the advice of their physician before use are pregnant or nursing women, those with heart disease, thyroid disease, diabetes, hyper anxiety, or a hypersensitivity to iodine. Basically, if you are a healthy individual, Triac is perfectly safe for you. One of the most interesting things about Triac is that unlike the use of thyroid hormones, it will not cause any permanent damage or down regulation of the thyroid-even with long term use. Triacana even states this in their product literature-another confirmation of just how safe this product is.
Now that we know that Triac has a superb safety profile, let’s get on to looking at all of the wonderful benefits of this compound. One of the best uses for Triac is to bring the Basal Metabolic Rate totally back to normal via the thyroid pathway. This is significant not only because it allows nearly any diet to work for extended periods of time but also because it increases the potency of nearly any diet. Remember, down regulating thyroid hormone activity is the body’s main way of lowering the Basal Metabolic Rate. Restoring this to normal, keeps the metabolism elevated and the calories burning.
Restoring the Basal Metabolic Rate is an extraordinary feat in and of itself but in doing so Triac does something else which is quite amazing. It selectively raises the respiration in adipose tissue while decreasing it in tissues such as muscle. Thus, a person on Triac will burn the same number of calories but those calories will selectively be from fat tissue. This is significant because you get an exaggerated fat burning effect and a concomitant muscle sparing effect. Normally, when you diet, a good portion of the calories comes from the proteolysis (protein degradation) of muscle tissue. Triac is excellent at blunting this catabolic action, preserving the muscle tissue, and increasing the burning of adipose stores. This is the main way that those pro-bodybuilders can get their body fat levels so low without sacrificing much muscle tissue-this stuff is absolutely incredible.
The last two beneficial aspects of Triac is its ability to lower cholesterol and its ability to sensitize the peripheral adrenergic receptors. Thyroid hormones in general lower cholesterol but Triac is special in that it is also very potent in the liver causing an exaggerated response in terms of lowering cholesterol. The last beneficial aspect of Triac is its ability make the peripheral adrenergic receptors more sensitive to products like Adipokinetix. This is another reason why stacking Adipokinetix and Triac makes so much sense. Basically, Triac will supercharge the effects of the Adipokinetix. Some people have experienced this phenomenon with stacking Guggulsterones with Adipokinetix-Triac though has a much more powerful effect!
We have looked at the Law of Dietdynamics and have seen how all diets work and how all diets stop working. We have also seen that by using the compound Triac we can significantly halt this law in its tracks.
Proper dosages for Triac are 2-4mg per day in divided dosages. Currently, only two companies manufacture a product with Triac-one by Icon and one by Syntrax Innovations, Inc. named TRIAX. End those dieting blues, end that terrible feeling of failure and try Triac!
Triax has simply flown off of our shelves ever since the FDA actually said one of the side effects was "profound weight loss". If you want to learn more about what people think about this or simply speak your piece, visit the message boards at Syntrax.com.
Heres an old article from the days syntrax used to sell the product as "triac"
What is Triac? Triac is what I like to call a thyroidal nutrient or a thyroidal pro-hormone. Just as we have steroidal nutrients like 19-Norandrostenediol, we now have access to equally effective thyroid nutrients or pro-hormones. To make things simple, Triac is not a hormone but instead a naturally occurring degradation product of your own T3 with some pretty fantastic metabolic effects.
The great thing about Triac is that it is sold as a fat loss drug around the world under the name Triacana. Triacana is indicated for conditions of obesity and for reducing subcutaneous fat stores-especially areas of cellulite. Hopefully, the name Triacana will ring some bells with at least a few of you bodybuilders out there. This drug has been vigorously imported from Europe and other parts of the world for its ability to make a person ripped and shredded. Many of the ultra shredded, ultra cut physiques you see in the professional bodybuilding circles became this way only by religiously using the drug as part of their dieting regimen. Fortunately, upon my extensive investigation, I found that Triac is not considered a drug in the U.S. and can be legally sold as a dietary supplement.
There are many reasons why Triac is nearly a perfect supplement. First, let me explain the safety profile. Triac is one of the most well studied and safe compounds ever sold as a drug. Triac has been sold as a legitimate pharmaceutical in various countries for the last several decades. In this time, there have been almost no reported negative side effects associated with its use. The only people who should be careful with Triac and should seek the advice of their physician before use are pregnant or nursing women, those with heart disease, thyroid disease, diabetes, hyper anxiety, or a hypersensitivity to iodine. Basically, if you are a healthy individual, Triac is perfectly safe for you. One of the most interesting things about Triac is that unlike the use of thyroid hormones, it will not cause any permanent damage or down regulation of the thyroid-even with long term use. Triacana even states this in their product literature-another confirmation of just how safe this product is.
Now that we know that Triac has a superb safety profile, let’s get on to looking at all of the wonderful benefits of this compound. One of the best uses for Triac is to bring the Basal Metabolic Rate totally back to normal via the thyroid pathway. This is significant not only because it allows nearly any diet to work for extended periods of time but also because it increases the potency of nearly any diet. Remember, down regulating thyroid hormone activity is the body’s main way of lowering the Basal Metabolic Rate. Restoring this to normal, keeps the metabolism elevated and the calories burning.
Restoring the Basal Metabolic Rate is an extraordinary feat in and of itself but in doing so Triac does something else which is quite amazing. It selectively raises the respiration in adipose tissue while decreasing it in tissues such as muscle. Thus, a person on Triac will burn the same number of calories but those calories will selectively be from fat tissue. This is significant because you get an exaggerated fat burning effect and a concomitant muscle sparing effect. Normally, when you diet, a good portion of the calories comes from the proteolysis (protein degradation) of muscle tissue. Triac is excellent at blunting this catabolic action, preserving the muscle tissue, and increasing the burning of adipose stores. This is the main way that those pro-bodybuilders can get their body fat levels so low without sacrificing much muscle tissue-this stuff is absolutely incredible.
The last two beneficial aspects of Triac is its ability to lower cholesterol and its ability to sensitize the peripheral adrenergic receptors. Thyroid hormones in general lower cholesterol but Triac is special in that it is also very potent in the liver causing an exaggerated response in terms of lowering cholesterol. The last beneficial aspect of Triac is its ability make the peripheral adrenergic receptors more sensitive to products like Adipokinetix. This is another reason why stacking Adipokinetix and Triac makes so much sense. Basically, Triac will supercharge the effects of the Adipokinetix. Some people have experienced this phenomenon with stacking Guggulsterones with Adipokinetix-Triac though has a much more powerful effect!
We have looked at the Law of Dietdynamics and have seen how all diets work and how all diets stop working. We have also seen that by using the compound Triac we can significantly halt this law in its tracks.
Proper dosages for Triac are 2-4mg per day in divided dosages. Currently, only two companies manufacture a product with Triac-one by Icon and one by Syntrax Innovations, Inc. named TRIAX. End those dieting blues, end that terrible feeling of failure and try Triac!
Triax has simply flown off of our shelves ever since the FDA actually said one of the side effects was "profound weight loss". If you want to learn more about what people think about this or simply speak your piece, visit the message boards at Syntrax.com.
crank
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Bignick said:
Have you used it bro?
It says it's supposed to make you shiver & sweat at the same time. Does it? That sounds like a pretty wild claim.
I see they have it in Liquid and Cap Form. I'd assume liquid would be a bit better.
Has anyone else used VPX Redline? What experiences and results did you have with it?
crank
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Found some more info on Triac in case anyone else was interested.
Copied From : http://www.bodypage.info/drugs/triacana.htm
Triacana belongs to the group of thyroid hormone preparations. Its substance tiratricol is a precursor of the iodiferous thyroid hormone, L-triiodthyronine (L-T3). L-T3, together with another iodiferous thyroid hormone, L-T4 (L-thyroxine), is produced in the thyroid and is the distinctly stronger and more effective of these two hormones. School medicine use Triacana in the treat-ments of obesity and hyperthyroidism (e.g. Jod-Basedow phenom-enon-, goiter). Hyperthyroidism is an abnormal function of the thy-roid gland in which the amount of secretion by the thyroid hor-mone is above average. The thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more L-T3 and L-T4. By the use of Triacana an excessive release of TSH can be avoided.
In the medical arsenal of bodybuilders Triacana has had a firm place since the late 1970's. After all, its lipolytic (fatburning) ef-fect is sufficiently known. This is due to the hypermetabolic state, increased irritability, and especially higher body temperature (gen-eration of heat) during the intake of Triacana. These are factors, which help the competing bodybuilder break down fat more eas-ily. By a caloric intake which is higher than usual it is still pos-sible to obtain a lower body fat content together with good muscle hardness. Although Triacana enjoys the reputation among ath-letes as a strong and especially effective fatburning thyroid hor-mone preparation, this preparation is a rather mild, well-toler-ated and relatively harmless compound. The often-made com-parison with the two L-T3 thyroid gland hormone compounds, Cytomel and Thybon, is a poor comparison since Triacana, mi-crogram for microgram, has a considerably lower effect. Even the more moderate L-T4 thyroid hormone drugs such as Synthroid or L-thyroxine are stronger than the substance tiratricol.
In order to achieve a visible fat-reducing effect most athletes must usually take 10-14 tablets/day. Generally, two 0.35 mg tablets are taken on the first day of intake and with two tablets added each successive day until 10-14 tablets/day are taken. The half-life time of tiratricol is 5-7 hours, so Triacana is usually taken 3-4 times daily. This guarantees a constant quantity of the sub-stance in the blood and thus a continued effect. Many athletes, in the meantime, are combining Triacana with Clenbuterol or Ephe-drine and report considerably better fat breakdown than when Triacana alone is taken. Among competing female bodybuilders and participants at the Miss Fitness pageant, in particular, the simultaneous administration of 8-10 Triacana tablets/day and 80-100 mcg Clenbuterol/day is a favorite. A series of bodybuild-ers use Triacana in combination with growth hormones in order to meet the body's increased thyroid hormone need during STH treatment (see chapter "Growth Hormones"). The theoretical ap-proach seems to be correct but Triacana is not an "ideal" thyroid hormone drug. The preparation Thyreocomb from the German Berlin-Chemie Company taken with a combination of the iodiferous L-T3 and L-T4 thyroid hormones would be more suit-able.
As for the duration of application the opinions of athletes vary greatly. Some use Triacana for only 4 weeks, mostly because they are afraid of a thyroid dysfunction. Others take it over a period of months. When looking at the physiological character-istics of the substance tiratricol, it becomes easier to make more accurate indications as to a possible duration of intake and the potential health risks that go along with the use. When taken in a dosage of 0.6 mg/day the reduction in the body's own TSH release can be obtained; with increased dosages it can be com-pletely suppressed. The fear that the TSH release will be continu-ously disturbed or suppressed after using the medication is with-out reason since this is a reversible, temporary process. 'Already 2-3 weeks after the intake is discontinued the TSH release is com-pletely normalized" (from Vidal 1994, page 1498). With this back-ground knowledge and based on the experiences of several ath-letes we would choose an intake interval of 10- 12 weeks.
Potential side effects such as palpitations, tremors, irregular heartbeat, dizziness, restlessness, nervousness, and excessive perspiration occur mostly during the first few days of intake. Those who in-crease their dosages slowly and evenly over several days as sug-gested usually have few problems with Triacana. Toward the end of the intake period a step-by-step reduction in the daily tablet dosage is better than abruptly discontinuing the substance. In summary one can say that Triacana is a (mild) alternative to the strong L-T3 thyroid hormone compounds such as Cytomel or Thybon with their strong side effects. It has only a lower lipolytic effect but can be taken over a prolonged period of time. Mistakes made during the intake are forgiven with Triacana rather than with Cytomel. Ambi-tious bodybuilders and athletes who are able to responsibly use strong medication choose Cytomel; persons who, however, fear side effects, who do not know much, or believe that "more is better," should select Triacana.
Copied From : http://www.bodypage.info/drugs/triacana.htm
Triacana belongs to the group of thyroid hormone preparations. Its substance tiratricol is a precursor of the iodiferous thyroid hormone, L-triiodthyronine (L-T3). L-T3, together with another iodiferous thyroid hormone, L-T4 (L-thyroxine), is produced in the thyroid and is the distinctly stronger and more effective of these two hormones. School medicine use Triacana in the treat-ments of obesity and hyperthyroidism (e.g. Jod-Basedow phenom-enon-, goiter). Hyperthyroidism is an abnormal function of the thy-roid gland in which the amount of secretion by the thyroid hor-mone is above average. The thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more L-T3 and L-T4. By the use of Triacana an excessive release of TSH can be avoided.
In the medical arsenal of bodybuilders Triacana has had a firm place since the late 1970's. After all, its lipolytic (fatburning) ef-fect is sufficiently known. This is due to the hypermetabolic state, increased irritability, and especially higher body temperature (gen-eration of heat) during the intake of Triacana. These are factors, which help the competing bodybuilder break down fat more eas-ily. By a caloric intake which is higher than usual it is still pos-sible to obtain a lower body fat content together with good muscle hardness. Although Triacana enjoys the reputation among ath-letes as a strong and especially effective fatburning thyroid hor-mone preparation, this preparation is a rather mild, well-toler-ated and relatively harmless compound. The often-made com-parison with the two L-T3 thyroid gland hormone compounds, Cytomel and Thybon, is a poor comparison since Triacana, mi-crogram for microgram, has a considerably lower effect. Even the more moderate L-T4 thyroid hormone drugs such as Synthroid or L-thyroxine are stronger than the substance tiratricol.
In order to achieve a visible fat-reducing effect most athletes must usually take 10-14 tablets/day. Generally, two 0.35 mg tablets are taken on the first day of intake and with two tablets added each successive day until 10-14 tablets/day are taken. The half-life time of tiratricol is 5-7 hours, so Triacana is usually taken 3-4 times daily. This guarantees a constant quantity of the sub-stance in the blood and thus a continued effect. Many athletes, in the meantime, are combining Triacana with Clenbuterol or Ephe-drine and report considerably better fat breakdown than when Triacana alone is taken. Among competing female bodybuilders and participants at the Miss Fitness pageant, in particular, the simultaneous administration of 8-10 Triacana tablets/day and 80-100 mcg Clenbuterol/day is a favorite. A series of bodybuild-ers use Triacana in combination with growth hormones in order to meet the body's increased thyroid hormone need during STH treatment (see chapter "Growth Hormones"). The theoretical ap-proach seems to be correct but Triacana is not an "ideal" thyroid hormone drug. The preparation Thyreocomb from the German Berlin-Chemie Company taken with a combination of the iodiferous L-T3 and L-T4 thyroid hormones would be more suit-able.
As for the duration of application the opinions of athletes vary greatly. Some use Triacana for only 4 weeks, mostly because they are afraid of a thyroid dysfunction. Others take it over a period of months. When looking at the physiological character-istics of the substance tiratricol, it becomes easier to make more accurate indications as to a possible duration of intake and the potential health risks that go along with the use. When taken in a dosage of 0.6 mg/day the reduction in the body's own TSH release can be obtained; with increased dosages it can be com-pletely suppressed. The fear that the TSH release will be continu-ously disturbed or suppressed after using the medication is with-out reason since this is a reversible, temporary process. 'Already 2-3 weeks after the intake is discontinued the TSH release is com-pletely normalized" (from Vidal 1994, page 1498). With this back-ground knowledge and based on the experiences of several ath-letes we would choose an intake interval of 10- 12 weeks.
Potential side effects such as palpitations, tremors, irregular heartbeat, dizziness, restlessness, nervousness, and excessive perspiration occur mostly during the first few days of intake. Those who in-crease their dosages slowly and evenly over several days as sug-gested usually have few problems with Triacana. Toward the end of the intake period a step-by-step reduction in the daily tablet dosage is better than abruptly discontinuing the substance. In summary one can say that Triacana is a (mild) alternative to the strong L-T3 thyroid hormone compounds such as Cytomel or Thybon with their strong side effects. It has only a lower lipolytic effect but can be taken over a prolonged period of time. Mistakes made during the intake are forgiven with Triacana rather than with Cytomel. Ambi-tious bodybuilders and athletes who are able to responsibly use strong medication choose Cytomel; persons who, however, fear side effects, who do not know much, or believe that "more is better," should select Triacana.
Bignick
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yeah redline has some characteristics similar to clen and shakes just like clen....it is the vpx replacement for clenbuetrex.....works good...i only used it for preworkout....but i have heard great things about the fat loss potential of the product....i would do the pill form, the other taste like shit
herbal form. It is very weak compared to actual ephedrine and much more must be taken. It is the kind that has been banned.
Actual ephedrine is still sold at most health food stores. You only need 25mg of ephedrine HCL with 200mg of caffeine 3 times a day to notice UNREAL fat loss! Almost as good as clen..
Actual ephedrine is still sold at most health food stores. You only need 25mg of ephedrine HCL with 200mg of caffeine 3 times a day to notice UNREAL fat loss! Almost as good as clen..
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