how effective is an ECA minus the A?

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i am thinking about doing a ephedra/caffiene stack for the summer to loose a little bit of fat and have a 6 pack for the summer instead of a 4. how effective would this stack be? what kind of doses are recommended? would clen be a better choice? keep in mind i have been natty for about 4 1/2 months now.
 
i just thought high doses of aspirin are prett bad for you. i have to admit, i am not as knowledgable with fat loss drugs because i have never had to use them. what kind of dose of each would you recommend?
 
i use the bayer 81 mg. dosage for my stack, that is far better than regular dosed aspirin. i dont think my stomach could handle the regular dosage of aspirin 3x a day. this is what i was told is safe, so there are any objections or whatnot, let me know...
 
And you dont have to take the aspirin in large doseages to get the desried effects. A baby aspirin works great. You may wanna use Yohimbe in place of the aspirin anyways.
 
i go: 50mg. ephedrine HCL, 200mg. caffiene, and 81mg. aspirin, usually 2x a day, any more than that keeps me too wired. your body will adapt quickly to those amounts, so they say to do 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. and on the off weeks, take another type of fat burner w/out ephedrine.
 
Hey Flex, Ive found that the ECA works great for energy, thus more energy = more and better cardio time which = more burned fat. Ive found that Clen makes me hungry and want to eat junk! When I use clen and dont eat junk I burn fat well, the trick is trying to kill those carb cravings you sometimes get while on Clen. When hydroxycut w/Ephedra gets back in the stores we will all be set.
 
I'd go with the E/C/Y stack and drop the aspirin, as far as the yohimbine HCL goes you need to have .2mg per kg of bodyweight. I'd use 50mg ephedrine, 400mg caffeine and 10mg yohimbine twice a day. I'd take it about 6 hours apart, taking into consideration the halflife of the yohimbine HCL. The half-life on Yohimbine HCL is 2 hours but an active metabolite is still going to work 6 hours after ingestion.
 
The Asprin makes my stomach feel like crap. I can't handle it.
It eats away at your stomach lining.

I'm going to try taking Kids Chewable Asprin next time around though.

I ran too high a dose the last couple times I used it.
 
i go with 50 e, 400 c, and 81 a, 3x a day. but i think im gonna try that ecy stack that chaps just mentioned. i know yohimbine hcl works very well.
 
yohimbine makes me sick and red and flush for hours, wish i could try it out though
 
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Actually the asprin isn't necessary any more to the ECA stack. I had found that out some time ago (maybe as long ago as a year or two) that the asprin isn't really needed. I'll try to find the reference.
 
Ya a while ago Yohimbine HCL gave me a panic attack :angry: , but now i can use it no prob. So you should start low and work your way up to asess your own tolerance. Another thing to consider is that Yohimbine works synergisticly with Clen, it extends the half-life from 36-38 hours and also slows down receptor site down regulation. I personally find i sweat my ass off while using only 10mg of Yohimbine HCL along with Clen. Another thing i though i should mention is if you can get your hands on some Ketotifen you should run that along with your E/C/Y stack, it will enhance the stack much like it enhances Clen, so lower doses would be needed. Good luck and keep us informed.
 
You should try Yohimbe IM i have studies that suggest that it can spot reduce fat. I havent tested this to see the validity to it but i plan on to soon. If i beat ya to it, i'll let ya know what i think.
 
My ECA dose good or not?

this is what I am currently taking for my eca dose. Please let me know if I am doing it wrong..

I take this dose 2x per day, one between my breakfast and 11am snack and the other b4 work out in the pm.

lightly coated Aspirin 1 pill = 350mgs
Ephedrine 1 pill has 25mg of Ephedrine Hydrochloride and 20mg of Guaifensin

Caffeine 1 pill= 200mgs

So I am taking one of each pill 2x day.
 
That's not very much ephedrine to be taking in a day. I'd take 400mg of caffeine along with 40mg of ephedrine at a time, drop the aspirin and take 10mg of Yohimbine HCL twice a day with your caffeine and ephedrine. Ephedrine has a negative feedback loop that prevents your body from burning fat around the gut and sides very well so the Yohimbine with correct this. :thumbsup:
 
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