capsule filler powder formula needed.

Hey bro's does anyone have a powder capsule filler formula?
what i want is a formula for filling capsules and a formula with a filler for filling my capsules.

so if i wanted 30mg/or 50mg per capsule what amounts areneeded. any info will be very helpful if you can provide it.
I searched the board and found nothing , but maybe it was my search.
thanks in advance bro's.

I got one of those CapMquick machines, (machine as in a plastic thing with 50 holes in it) and I found the best way to do it is to toss the powder with powdered sugar so it's easier to make them even, then i use a teaspoon and slowly sprinkle into the holes, the more slower and more carefull the better, then run a creditcard along the top to the remainder falls into the caps; but I don't think the self-capping machines can really make even dosages for 10-20mg capsules, it's just not very reliable, so on the shelf the capmquick machine sits, I have made some cialis 20mg capsules and gave them to some friends and those were all OK, but I overdosed them to 30 because I figured they would come out uneven..

I appreciate the input butwhat im lookingfor is a formula to make them even dose powdered substances. i tried the whole volume and mass thing into individual units but i suck at algebra..lol
my 50mgs came out at 80 when tested and some 40mg. so apparently i did a batch uneven too.

so a formula would be great for total dispersion and maybe even a powdered formula for even dispersion. i also rolled it all in a coffee grinder for even distribution.

I think you can get it evenly distributed in powdersugar as long as you toss it enough, coffee grinder would help also, the problem is each capsule has to have the exact same amount of powder in it; and the only thing that can reliably do that is a machine, then your back to having to buy a tablet machine because thats cheaper than the machine that a pharm. manufacturer uses to mass produce capsules..

i guess im not being to clear with what i need, its like the powder calculator for powders for injectables.
i need it to add to weight by volume or whatever so that every capsule is almost the same by weight. Does anyone know how to do this by vilume so i dont have to weigh all 166 capsules in my machine and add the correct amount then add filler..lol

On page 2 of this link should be calculations for capping powders.
capping powders
I think that might help.

Here is a post i dug up from another site. Making some goodies eh Crim.

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Capping Orals With Accuracy

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This thread was created by my good friend SV-1. Enjoy.

Although there are easier methods out there when it comes to capping orals they produce results that are somewhat less than accurate. I (SV-1) decided to write this article to show you step by step how to produce caps with a high level of accuracy. Credit goes to AnabolicMaster, ColdStone and Lozgod who helped make this possible.

Things you will need to make your caps.

1. A capping device and empty gel caps. The two most popular capping devices are the "Cap-M-Quick" and "The Capsule Machine". The cap-m-quick does 50 caps at a time but you have to manually join the caps by hand. The capsule machine only does 24 caps at a time but automatically joins them for you. Both of these devices can be purchased to use either size "0" or "00" caps (size "0" caps are smaller than size "00"). I prefer the capsule machine and size "0" caps, but either device in either size is fine.

2. A scale to weigh the powders you'll be using to make your caps. I recommend either the Palmscale 5.0 which is accurate to 0.1g and has a capacity of 200g (cost approx $60), or the GemPro-50 which is accurate to 0.002g and has a capacity of 10g (cost approx $150).

3. The powdered version of the compound that you plan on capping. Oral compounds such as Anavar, DNP, Clomid, Dbol, Nolva and Winny make good capping choices. However compounds such as Clen, T3, Femara and Arimidex should never be capped because of their small dose amounts and the inherent inaccuracies of the capping process.

4. A powdered filler that will be used to take up the space in the caps that the active compound doesn't. Almost anything can be used as a filler, Protein Powder, Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate), Corn Starch, Flour, Creatine, Lactose, Glutamine, etc.

5. A mortar and pestle to thoroughly mix the active compound and filler together. Many compounding pharmacies use a mortar and pestle to mix their ingredients together for capping and if it's good enough for them it's good enough for me.


Now that we have everything necessary to make our caps here's how we do it. For the example below I'll use the capsule machine to make 48 caps with 100mg of Aspirin (active compound) and Baking Soda (filler).

1. Load 24 empty caps into the capsule machine, then fill all 24 caps with Baking Soda (tamping powder if final caps will be tamped).

2. Empty all the Baking Soda out of the capsule machine and weigh it. Total weight = 17,160mg

3. Divide that weight (17,160mg) by the number of capsules (24) to get the total weight per cap. 17,160mg / 24 = 715mg a cap.

4. Repeat these steps with the Aspirin powder. Total weight = 11,760mg / 24 = 490mg a cap.

5. Now we need to figure out the ratio of Aspirin to Baking Soda.

100mg Aspirin = Unknown mg of Baking Soda

490mg Aspirin = 715mg Baking Soda


(100mg Aspirin x 715mg Baking Soda) / 490mg Aspirin = 146mg of Baking Soda (this is the Unknown mg of Baking Soda, and how much must be removed to make space for 100mg of Aspirin)


715mg Baking Soda - 146mg = 569mg Baking Soda (this is how much Baking Soda to use per cap)


569mg Baking Soda x 48 caps = 27,312mg Baking Soda

100mg Aspirin x 48 caps = 4800mg Aspirin

So to make 48 100mg Aspirin caps we need 4800mg of Aspirin powder and 27,312mg of Baking Soda.


This is where the simpler methods fail and give inaccurate results. As the chart below shows, different compounds (like Aspirin and Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)) weigh different amounts for the same volume. If we had simply subtracted 100mg from the Baking Soda we would not have had properly dosed caps, because to fit in 100mg of Aspirin we needed to subtract 146mg of Baking Soda.
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Now that we know how much active compound and filler to use (Aspirin and Baking Soda) we need to mix them together. To do this we'll use a mortar and pestle with the geometric dilution method, which was introduced to me by pharmguy24 on AU. What's the geometric dilution method you ask? It's a method used when a small amount of powder needs to be *thoroughly* mixed with a larger amount of powder. To do this you mix all of the smaller powder with an approximately equal amount of the larger powder, this blend is called "mix 1". Then combine all of your "mix 1" with an equal amount of the larger powder and blend again, this is "mix 2". Keep going like this until all the powders have been mixed together.

So we place all of the Aspirin powder (the smaller amount of the two different powders) in the mortar and add an equal amount of the Baking Soda (approximately 4800mg), then blend them together with the pestle for a couple of minutes. This combination is our mix 1, and it is now 9600mg (4800mg Aspirin + 4800mg Baking Soda). After it's been blended for a few minutes add an equal amount of Baking Soda (9800mg) to your mix 1 and blend for a couple more minutes. This combination is our mix 2 and is 19,200mg (9800mg from mix 1 + 9800mg Baking Soda). After it's been blended for a few minutes add the remaining Baking Soda (12912mg) to your mix 2 and blend for a couple more minutes.

Why go to this extra trouble? Because even though we know the amounts of Aspirin and Baking Soda we're using are dead on, our caps will not be dosed properly if the powders are not mixed together very thoroughly.


Now we're ready to make our caps.

1. Load both the base and top of the capsule machine with the empty gel caps (the bottom should already be loaded from weighing the powder for mixing).

2. Place the base on its stand and pour the mixed powder over the empty caps, then spread it around using the supplied plastic card so all the caps are filled.

2a. Optional: At this point you can tamp the powder down and add more powder to the caps increasing the amount they can hold. But because what we want to cap fits fine without doing that we didn't calculate for it and wont be doing it.

3. Attach the top of the capsule machine (which contains the other halves of the caps) to the base.

4. Remove the capsule machine from its stand and press it down on your work surface applying even pressure to join the caps.

5. Remove the top from the capsule machine and press against the spring loaded plate on its back to eject the finished caps.

6. Repeat these steps until all your caps are made.


Follow these guidelines and you too can make your own accurately dosed caps

thank you bro, im glad i invited you here..lol
I have caps that are flavored, berry, coffee, strawberry and orange they rock!
and thanks again its highly appreciated.

this is great information....i have used the shake method several times and worked well but you can never be sure that your on key with it unless you test them

LOL you gotta be kidding me the directions posted above you have to fill all the caps, tamp em down then empty them and weigh the powder. IMO that is a PIA.

I did it a different way. I did NOT end up with a predetermined number of mgs per cap but I DID end up knowing how many mgs I had per cap.

Maybe I was just lucky the 3 or 4 times I capped some powder but this is what I did. I did it back when PH powder was legal.

I used creatine to mix with the prohormone, but you could use powdered sugar if you like. You THOROUGHLY mix the PH powder you have with double the amount of creatine.

Set up the cap machine. Fill as many caps as you can. If you need more caps set up the machine again. Then you just divide the number of mgs of power you started with by the number of caps and that determines how many caps you take.

Not perfectly exact but DAMN after having capped some I can just imagine how messy the other way would be trying to empty out caps after you have tamped them down.


CROWLER

i have doscovered a different method used by a local college lab to do similiar stuff and a machine i found used to do herbal supplements. its great, im doing a test run to see if its accurate and send them off to a lqb to have tested, if they come out right orclose then i will post that here of how, so it wont just be a opinion or a guess, but a fact.

the shake method i heard gives to much room for error and a lot of wasted powder.
to be honest i dont need 50mg dbols..lol