Am I eating too much.

It's been about 1 week on IGF-1 and the hunger is outta control. I can't stop eating. I woke up last night drenched in my own sweat and hungry as hell. I ended up eating an entire box of Total Flakes with a bunch of Splenda sweetener in a salad bowl.

BF seems to be coming off and I have no idea how. I'm eating clean, but so much that it seems almost impossible for these results to be real. Again, here is a look at my daily routine right now. Also, I'm not on any AAS.

Morning- 2.5iu HGH; 12iu Slin; NOC (Nitric Oxide); Multi-vitamin; Glutamine
Food intake: 12 eggs (4 with the yolks) with low calorie Ketchup; 2 cups oatmeal cooked in non-fat milk and splenda sweetener for taste.

2 hours later- 3 turkey breast pattys (extra lean) & 1 EAS meal replacement shake.

1 hour later- 16oz. Roasted Tuna Steak

1 hour later- 2 sashimi plates from "Sushi Boy" this is about 16 pieces of fish consisting of Tuna, Salmon, Yellow Tail

1 hour later- 1 Meal replacement shake (I Got a good deal on EAS, so that's what i use)

2 hours later- 2 chicken breasts, Black beans, spanish rice (El Pollo Loco)

1 hour later- 100mcg IGF-1 with 50gm Whey protien and 104gm Carbs

Workout-

PWO- 12iu Slin; 2.5iu HGH, 50gm Whey Protien, 104gm Carbs

Evening- 16oz. steak, 1lbs veggies, half gallon non-fat milk

2-3 a.m.- 1 box Total Flakes with Splenda for tast in NonFat Milk.

Not sure if I need this many Calories, but I am always hungry. Even after I get done eating one of these meals, I don't feel full. Anyone ever hear of Prader Willy Syndrome? I swear, it feels like I have this disease.

I think you are. Fat slows down digestion. You should have 2-3 hours digestion between meals. This should cause a tempature rise. There is something I read about insulin spikes and a fat slowing down if you eat more often than 2-3 hours but I've always lived by the the 2.5 hour, 6 meal schedule anyway.

hmmm, O.K. I will try to spread it out a little more between meals, but should I maintain the calorie count? I am trying to maintain my gains from my last cycle. I don't really care too much about gaining fat b/c I've got a hott wife and don't need to impress anyone.

I guess I'm asking if there are any health risks to eating close to 7000 calories per day?

Sorry, left out my stats.

6'3"
274lbs yesterday
about 10.5% BF
Been lifting for 3 months. Had an injury 4 years back and just picked it up again.

More power to ya bro keep stuffin your face, and as far as eating every hour or so, that's fine look at Cutler he eats EVERY hour. You gotta post some pics i bet your lookin freaky.

jaywooly said:

I think you are. Fat slows down digestion. You should have 2-3 hours digestion between meals. This should cause a tempature rise. There is something I read about insulin spikes and a fat slowing down if you eat more often than 2-3 hours but I've always lived by the the 2.5 hour, 6 meal schedule anyway.

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I am curious how you can figure out he is eating too much when he says he islosing fat and you have no input as to his weight, height, BF % etc.

What is the differance if you eat 1000 calories every 3 hours for a 6 meals or you eat 500 calories for 12 meals?



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Chaps said:

More power to ya bro keep stuffin your face, and as far as eating every hour or so, that's fine look at Cutler he eats EVERY hour. You gotta post some pics i bet your lookin freaky.

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I will work on the pics. The before pics from a couple of months ago show I have an office job. But, there is no doubt in anyone's mind that I'm taking something at this point.

So, I've got mixed reviews on the food intake. I guess I will run with it for a couple more weeks and not exceed 13% BF. I don't think I could keep this up for too long anyhow.

CROWLER said:

I am curious how you can figure out he is eating too much when he says he islosing fat and you have no input as to his weight, height, BF % etc.

What is the differance if you eat 1000 calories every 3 hours for a 6 meals or you eat 500 calories for 12 meals?



CROWLER

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Because...The difference is that when you consume more carbs, fat, and protein calories in 1 session the excess calories are going to be stored as fat as opposed to spreading it out more to provide the continued breakdown of carbs, fat, & protein providing a more consistantly replenished liver glycogen store and less spill over. (I.E. Fat gain)

Cont: That's why most people suggest eating 6 smaller meals per day rather than 3 big ones. Also you must take into account that lots of carbs in that 1000 cals is going to cause your body to produce a good amount of insulin which again with the excess fat, and carbs is going to make you gain more fat.

Dude your slin usage seems odd to me. Doesn't seem like you are getting enough carbs in the AM or for the following meal. Same thing with your PM slin, only 104gr of carbs and then no substantial carbs after that. I guess the right question would be to ask what type of slin you are taking.

I have a question for you. Isn't using 12IU 2X per day while on 100mcg of IGF high. As far as the IGF and slin, I am only going by what I have researched so far which states to start off with half the amount of slin as you normally use while on IGF.

I don't think you need that much insulin especially since your using 100mcg of clen. And yes their is a HUGE difference in eating small meals as apposed to big ones the biggest difference is your body will use more of the nutrients from the food u eat more effectively, if u only eat 3 meals a day you are shitting out quite a bit of what u eat or storing it as fat. And bump for not enough carbs on the slin post-workout, 10g's of carbs per iu of slin is actually cutting it dangerously close, Dan Duchaine used to tell his athletes to eat ATLEAST 12g's of carbs per iu of slin.

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Because...The difference is that when you consume more carbs, fat, and protein calories in 1 session the excess calories are going to be stored as fat as opposed to spreading it out more to provide the continued breakdown of carbs, fat, & protein providing a more consistantly replenished liver glycogen store and less spill over. (I.E. Fat gain)

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I don't understand why you are talking about excess calories being stored as fat. Perhaps you missed where he said he is LOSING fat.

He is also eating NINE times a day. How many more times you guys want him to eat lol





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We're saying he should be eating 6, not nine. Less times, more during each meal. If what he's doing is working "wonders" then more power to him but you have to ask the question, "Could it be better?"

I know bro...but YOU asked why does it matter whether you split it up into 12500 cal. meals or 6 1000 cal meals. I was just explaining why it's better to eat smaller portions.

My point is eating every hour, you're not giving ANY time for digestion.

I concur...lol

Slin- I started out taking 8iu, but didn't even feel it. I went up to 10iu, still nothing. And finally I arrived at 12iu where I started to feel the dip in blood sugar. That's why I am taking 12iu 2x/day.

What doesn't make sense is how am I supposed to get more food into less meals when I am eating as much as I can at each meal? I am mainly worried about health risks of eating this much food. Do I stand to get heart disease if my unsaturated fats are at a minimum?

Does anybody actually know what the pro's eat on a daily basis? Has anyone on here actually hung out with Coleman or Cutler or any real pros to know how much they actually eat? I speant some time with Jean Pierre Faux (I know he sucks) but I wasn't kicking it with him all day long to actually see how much food he was taking in.

Ask Big A....He's an IFBB Pro.

But...then again it doesn't matter what most of them eat as they have superior genetics. If you are eating as much as you can and gains are coming along then why change it up? I know it's hard to consume so much food so do the best you can.

thats quite a bit of slin

well i dont really know alot about this , but well your stomach makes 2 kinda of acid and one is alkaline and the other i dont know , but anyway you probably should try to find good combos to eat the food in . cause well if you eat steak and potatoes thats a bad combonation cause it makes your stomach produce both types of acid to digest the food and they cancel each other out. so you dont get the right nutrition from it and it doesnt digest right. so well i dont really know the combos u should eat in or whatever but u could do some research on it probably and see about it. but lol im new so what do i know but well it wouldnt hurt to atleast research on it might even make u pack on better

im gonna try to take another pic of me about 2 weeks from now and see the differences between that pic and me now. even tho i dont think much gains cause i havent been able to eat right cause im 15 and parents well they dont but the food i want. and i dont have the money to eat like i need 2 or should. but i think i might be a little bigger.