k, well got a guy at the gym to show me some exercises, and the exersices he had me doing, were almost the same as i have been already doing, BUT a lot better form, and A LOT lighter weight. Im trying to gain mass, so i did heavy weight, not perfect form, for low reps. Like i said, he had me doing light weight, but right form, and quite a bit of reps, and burned like no other. Question is, is that if im trying to gain mass, will doing light weight, good form, 8-12 reps do what i want, i get a wayyyy better burn when i have right form, compared to having not as good form with heavy weight. What yall think?
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If you are getting better burn you, of course, will be gaining more muscle. However, my suggestion to you is to lift 80% of your max (with good form--very important--let me say it again good form) 6-8 reps. If you can do more then watch your form. Is it good form?
If it is harder when you have good form...this is a good thing...it means you are targeting that muscle. When you do not have good form you are using other things which can injure you and cause you not to be able to lift for a year.
Also if can cause you not to gain the mass you are looking for, because of the fact that you are using different things other than that muscle you are targeting. ---Again bro, good form, 80% of your max, and 6 to 8 reps. If that begins to get too easy you need to up the weight.
With lighter weight and more reps that the man suggested to you is making you work on endurance-strength or stamina-strength which will give you minimum to moderate muscle mass. You want to work on explosive strength (ie. heavy weight 6-8 reps), which will give you peak muscle mass.
Good luck!!
If it is harder when you have good form...this is a good thing...it means you are targeting that muscle. When you do not have good form you are using other things which can injure you and cause you not to be able to lift for a year.
Also if can cause you not to gain the mass you are looking for, because of the fact that you are using different things other than that muscle you are targeting. ---Again bro, good form, 80% of your max, and 6 to 8 reps. If that begins to get too easy you need to up the weight.
With lighter weight and more reps that the man suggested to you is making you work on endurance-strength or stamina-strength which will give you minimum to moderate muscle mass. You want to work on explosive strength (ie. heavy weight 6-8 reps), which will give you peak muscle mass.
Good luck!!
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saudades
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Always going really heavy builds strength more than size. I learned that the hard way. I'm really strong, but I don't have as much size to show for it. It is also difficult to get out of that mode of training. It is better to go moderate in weight with more reps in correct form. That will build more size than only going really heavy all the time with not so good form.
kdog
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I totally agree with these guys. WHen I first started, I wanted to be the baddest guy in the gym. Lifted some good weight, but didn't really grow. I had a talk with an ol' timer and he said I shitty form and that my gains would not come like that. I dropped my wieghts and focused on a tight slow contraction, really developing a mind-muscle connection. Now, my weights are back up, as is the muscle size... :thumbsup:
Glen Whitestone
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A Japaneese research group did a study that concluded the 10-12 rep range was optimal for gaining mass. This is because the extra reps help raise the bodies natural GH levels by as much as 30%. The 6 reps range has been proven more effective by scientific study to improve strenth. I have noticed it is also hard to get a good pump by going low rep. To keep it equal I do a heavy weight low rep week and then a high rep 10-12 range pump week. Then repeat. How could you go wrong bro?
I disagree. Ive always gone heavy and nothing else will put mass on me.
yea, I can get a better pump with higher reps and drop sets, but I wont get stronger and I wont get bigger. hell, pumps have more to do with carb intake than workout rep ranges for me.
Ive noticed strength gains are equal to size gains - at least for me.
yea, I can get a better pump with higher reps and drop sets, but I wont get stronger and I wont get bigger. hell, pumps have more to do with carb intake than workout rep ranges for me.
Ive noticed strength gains are equal to size gains - at least for me.
I searched the Net for awhile and found these links which may help. Let me know if they were any good for any of you. Thanks!
"Most guys really don't understand how much bigger and stronger they could be," Tate says. "For years they use standard training principles with light to moderate weights and then wonder why they only get standard results."
Took the above quote out of this link... see if if helps http://www.mensjournal.com/healthFitness/0504/powerlifting.html
Also try this link which routes you to other articles... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=MassGainPrograms
"Most guys really don't understand how much bigger and stronger they could be," Tate says. "For years they use standard training principles with light to moderate weights and then wonder why they only get standard results."
Took the above quote out of this link... see if if helps http://www.mensjournal.com/healthFitness/0504/powerlifting.html
Also try this link which routes you to other articles... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=MassGainPrograms
Crazymank
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I agree with drew... I've tried higher reps. Just dosent work for me.
But heavy, slow movement, good for me!
There are these cocky kids at the gym... weigh about 180... They throw around 320 on the bench press for about 8 reps -which looks very impressive given there size. But man- these kids are going to kill themselves cause they're bouncing the 320 on there chest like its a trampoline.
I've thought about putting a $20 down and betting them that they cant do 1 rep with a 3 second pause at the bottom.... But I dont want to be a smart ass, or a know it all.
it would probley save there lives though- lol.
But heavy, slow movement, good for me!
There are these cocky kids at the gym... weigh about 180... They throw around 320 on the bench press for about 8 reps -which looks very impressive given there size. But man- these kids are going to kill themselves cause they're bouncing the 320 on there chest like its a trampoline.
I've thought about putting a $20 down and betting them that they cant do 1 rep with a 3 second pause at the bottom.... But I dont want to be a smart ass, or a know it all.
it would probley save there lives though- lol.
Glen Whitestone
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Hey man, I did not say I agree with the study. I thought I would post it because it was current to the topic. It is on page 280 in this months Muscle Fitness magazine. Anyone else read magazines anymore these days? What else to occupy my time when taking a crap?
Glen Whitestone
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