Sust & Tren only cycle

I have experience with a lot of different gear, and tend to have more complex stacks with somewhere over two grams a week in different gear. But I want to start reducing what I take so I don't screw with things too much. I have been on for 18 months now. Only probelm is elevated BP. Oh and Acne. I have blood work done every month.

I am 40, 5'8" and 202. BF about 14% give or take.

I am looking at starting a 12 week cycle with:
625 mg of Sust a week
400-500 mg of Tren a week
50 mg of proviron each day

Normally, I would add some primo or some eq to it, but I want to go with a lower volume of injections, and my BP has been high and eq would be a bad thing to add. That, and nothing kicks like tren and test.

Is this too weak of a cycle to see a lot from?

In the first two weeks, I would like to lose about 7 pounds in a quick cutter (really about ten days using clen and t3). Then the rest of the time is all about adding some lean mass and getting stronger. (I will be on before I start this cycle, so I still have shit in my system). I would be happy finishing up at a leaner 210. I may toss in some IGF for the last month.

No PST as I am plan on going back to HRT doses.

doctor, which tren are you taking?
bump, i would like some info on this as well
I am actually doing a similiar one, will be starting in beginning of april.
550 mg andropen/week
200mg tren depot/week (first time user with tren)
and 30mg t-bols a day for first 6 weeks
liquafem throughout cycle
40mcg/day MC igf halfway through and through PCT (first time user with this too)

The longer acting Tren, Tren E. The only sides I get from it are night sweats and acne if I don't watch it. I'm taking accutane for this.

I haven't really gotten a lot from tbols, but they don't mess with your BP as much, so it is a good option.

First time I did tren, I took about what you did and it was nice. Last time at 400 mg a week, I made some real progress in the amounts I was lifting and I added some LBM.

I am using IGF now, and the sore joints are killing me (I am taking 500 mg of deca and my shoulders and elbows still ache pretty bad). I will probably reduce the amount a bit from 60 mcg. I am using Chinese IGF - Insulin Like Growth Factor.

Doctor will- I dont understand... You've been on for 18 months and your planning on going an additional 12???

I love tren! but Im always worried about its toxicitiy(sp?) and dont like messing with it unless ive been off for some time.

Hey its nice that im not the oldest guy here too!!-lol. Bet I know what that proviron is for!!

Normal- I've been on for 18 months. I change SOMETHING in the stack every month or two. I usually keep to mild shit (primo, var, eq, deca), always run some test (500-750), and have only run tren three times, for 6-8 weeks at a time.

I ran an 8 week version of this about six weeks ago, but had lotsa othe goodies along with it. Now, I am thinking of just going for the more powerful stuff, and cutting out a gram of the less powerful stuff. Next cycle will be a gentle summer cycle to build tendons (250 mg sust, 600 mg primo, 80 mg a day of var).

I got you bro on the tendons. I feel like my chest is going to rip in half when im benching heavy.

I just bought some proviron. I've been on for about 18 weeks too. Im not sure how long I want to run this thing, but im hoping that the proviron will give me some better results with the 750mgs of sus im running.

Do you find that its better to run longer cycles now that your older??? Im just not responding the way I did when I was younger to any type of gear I try. Its so hard for me to put on more weight now!!! Its fustraiting- part of the reason why I dont want to quit this cycle.- just didnt gain much weight- infact im only 3lbs heavier than when I started.

Normal,

I use the proviron all the time. I get it in powder and I just mix it in with my protein shake (but it can get a bit foul if you use things like Tbol or var as well.)

I also have found it hard to gain weight. Now that may simply be a sign that I am getting as big as I can get without going crazy with gear. I eat more and add some weight (a few pounds) then try to drop some fat... and am pretty close to where I started. I got the best luck from getting up at 3 am (or whenever I wake up in the night) and having a power bar, a glass of milk, and a piece of fruit. (A protein shake is easier, but if I get more than 100 grams from that I get gas.)

I am 5'8" and 203 and maybe 14% bf. I want to drop a bit of BF in the next four weeks. I probably only want to add maybe 15 more pounds of muscle (but then again I said that when I was 175).

I have found that it is hard to add many plates to what I lift if I am not using tren. Maybe it is in my head, but I added 20 pounds to my squat in the last week (when I just started the tren so it probably isn't even hitting me full out yet). Of course I was shaking so bad I stopped when I probably could have done another rep or two. But 725 was obviusly pushing it for me and I was afraid of dropping it (well, afraid I was going to lose my balance and fall).

Some of us try to claim (or convince ourselves) that when you are older, you are really doing HRT and cycles. That is basically where I would like to be by the end of the summer. Tren and sust for three months, followed by a three month (very mild) tendon/HRT cycle.

For me the main thing is getting bloodwork done monthly and monitoring my BP. Right now, my BP is too high (but my cholesterol is finally doing great). Gotta add some more cardio and keep an eye on it. You don't want to be fittest looking corpse in the funeral home. But if you watch your BP and blood lipids, you should be doing OK.

The nice thing is no PST since you are never "off." I gotta add that since I amusing under a gram and a half of higher dosed gear, the shots are less of a pain (literally and figuratively).

Thanks for the insite doctor will. It will help greatly.

Well, the tren and sust are working great. I feel stronger - and I was able to add 20 pounds to my squat and add weight to most other excercises. I just love how the progress stays steady with Tren. I hope I can keep up the motivation when I am NOT on it.

I am also down five pounds now. I will see if I can add some LBM back after I drop some more fat. The nice thing about a good cutter is that it makes you HUNGRY when you get off and I am more motivated to eat.

I love tren too!! Only problem is im on deca right now, so Im saving it for a future cycle. I want to run EQ with tren, Im hoping that will still allow me to eat. I loose my appetite a lot when on gear period. I dont want to quit the deca, cause im short on eq and I dont want to go back to joint pain.