Var instead of dbol?

jaywooly

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One guy I train with want to add some serious mass and would like to go on Tren Enanthate and Test Enanthate but is hesitant to go on dbol because of bloat. Do you think adding VAR instead of dbol as a kick would be worth it? Or just a waste.

750mgs Test E weeks 1-10
500mgs Tren E weeks 1-10
40mgs Var ED for 4-6 weeks?

Begining or end for the Var? I'm thinking perhaps, it may be better to end the cycle with the var, rather than to start it out?

I'm just shooting from the hip here, looking for opinions. I'm currently on my 1st go of Var as we speak and am loving it.
 
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i just started my var as you can see in my log i havent been on long enough to know what its like first time running it.
I say kick it off with tbol bro if hes lookin for mass without the bloat ive ran it and it worked very well for me.
you could start with tbol for 6 weeks as its not too toxic and sides are minimal and then run the test and tren out. thats what i would do.
 
I like var a lot and am using it for prep.
I see more from var at lower BF %ages.
What is his goal from the cycle?
 
I think var is a great product, though it does depend on what you're looking for. I like to run var and gh between cycles (I know running var isn't really coming off but it doesn't shut you down, at least me) and find it helps me keep my gains and keep hard. If your friend is looking for a hard look then yeah the var would be great, and tren definitely keeps you hard obviously.. but if he's going for strength then var wouldn't be the best bet. Var is definitely effective though, and not a waste of money by any means, if you have the money, lol.
 
Mike I have not used masteron before but I know A top guy who prefered not to use it from the little result he got from it. But then again we all react different. Just like I will never us EQ again in my life. Scared me half to death when my breathing became heavy and my stomach hurt so bad that I could eat a bigmac every hour and still be hungry!!!
 
38532nd said:
Mike I have not used masteron before but I know A top guy who prefered not to use it from the little result he got from it. But then again we all react different. Just like I will never us EQ again in my life. Scared me half to death when my breathing became heavy and my stomach hurt so bad that I could eat a bigmac every hour and still be hungry!!!
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well i has some good results from it
during my precontest prep

If you want to weigh 280 then you better be eating that BIG MAC every half hour lol!! :satan:
 
KitGuy said:
Var is definitely effective though, and not a waste of money by any means, if you have the money, lol.
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You mean to tell me that its better to take Anavar then prop and tren
because thats what it equals.

and its still an oral
 
supermannpc said:
You mean to tell me that its better to take Anavar then prop and tren
because thats what it equals.

and its still an oral
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Are you trying to tell me I said it's better to take anavar than prop and tren? Please use that quote button and show me where I said that, cause I don't see it. And I believe he was speaking of Test E and not prop if I am able to read correctly. You're arguementative, aren't ya?
 
supermannpc said:
i personally think that anavar is a total waste of money
replace the var with some masteron or primo
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I personally think anavar is a great drug if you are on a cutting cycle as in my personal experience helps me hold on to muscle and keeps me hard though it's mild and doesn't make me hold water, therefore not a total waste of money in my opinion, IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. And yes it does get expensive.
 
i wasnt saying that you said that
i was just trying to make a point and that is you can get alot more for your money on other things
and anavar is very expensive
 
yea, i run across cheap var more and more lately. I havent used it yet and this thread just confused me more on the issue lol! :D
 
jaywooly said:
One guy I train with want to add some serious mass and would like to go on Tren Enanthate and Test Enanthate but is hesitant to go on dbol because of bloat. Do you think adding VAR instead of dbol as a kick would be worth it? Or just a waste.

750mgs Test E weeks 1-10
500mgs Tren E weeks 1-10
40mgs Var ED for 4-6 weeks?

Begining or end for the Var? I'm thinking perhaps, it may be better to end the cycle with the var, rather than to start it out?

I'm just shooting from the hip here, looking for opinions. I'm currently on my 1st go of Var as we speak and am loving it.
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Have him run the VAR weeks 1 - 12 at 60 or 80mg ED. If he can't afford that then cut the weeks a bit but IMO don't use the var less then 8 weeks.
 
38532nd said:
I get 15 mg tabs from IP labs for 2.5 bucks a tab 150 for 60 tabs.Winny and masteron are the same price as well all are from IP labs
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lol, that isnt the best example of cheap var.

IP isnt really known for the cheapest gear though.
 
You can get the powder for a LOT less than a pill. Just toss it into your shake and you are good to go. It is still more expensive, but $20 for a gram isn't that much of a big deal. Hell, I spend way more money on FOOD.

I like var, but it isn't a good mass builder unless you take enough - 80 mg a day or so. YMMV.

Dbol is great for short term changes; you keep var gains.

Personally, I would just add 600 mg of EQ a week to the cycle instead. Better gains. Gentle cycle. Just watch your BP if you are prone to that. And go 12 weeks, not 10. BUt that is a long time on Tren, if you get night sweats and can't sleep. Main thing is to eat.
 
good to see you aroudn Doc Will, I would agree with adding the EQ but I think that may be too much with the Tren and at these doses. If you can get the Var as a powder it looks like a good add to me
 
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