I totally disagree. I was at the Mr O and saw the prejudging and the night show, part of the time in the front row. I was also hangin out in Weider's sky box for Prejudging and the night show and most there were happy for Jay but didnt see how he won. Ronnie had the most muscle and the best condition. As for the lat tear, I havent seen pics but I saw everything in person and didnt see any signs of tears other than one calf didnt have near the inner sweep of the other. Jay definately looked good and aesthetic. My problem is that the biggest, craziest, most conditioned athlete did not win.