Depression??

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brutalI

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Hay ya all! Been a while since i been kickin it on here but i been takin lots of time just to chill and lookin after my pregnant girl! Anyway i not been trainin too much but fuck me im liftin good weights and feelin great. My last cycle was a simple deca and d-bol for 15 weeks, bout maybe 2 or 3 months after finishing the cycle im feelin real down and depressed, its kinda put me off cycling any more, i only used clomid for about 1 or 2 weeks after cycle could this have led to feeling so fuckin miserable? I feel good now and all i can think of hitting is igf? have any of you guys experienced depression?? Any any suggestions for future cycles?

Cheers all! :thumbsup:
 
well, did you use no test in that cycle?

and 25 weeks on, how long was your clomid use?
 
if u don't feel any better man, b/c gear does mess with ur brain chemicals and all that, then maybe u should look into taking some lexapro or something
 
Sorry about your depression but that is a horrible cycle there. Theres all kinda things wrong with that cycle, do some re-search and see what you cant find out. And im hoping you didnt take d-bol for over 5-6 weeks, and it says u took it for 15, so if thats the case, you fried your liver, get you some liv-52 and start taking that, its a liver protectent
 
yeah I was shocked when i saw this guys cycle yesterday. Please for the sake of your body do some research. You may get away with that kind of use in the short run, but long term you'll end up fucking yourself.
 
hay folks yeah sorry bout lack of info but i used d-bol for the first 6 weeks along with himalaya liv 52! i only used clomid for 2 weeks after i think about a month or so after i finished the deca, the reason for this kind or cycle is i need to go places for long periods of time and i cannot take much with me like pins, barrels or amps so i need to keep all down to a bare minimum. Any other advice on cycles with low amount of gear would be great! But yeah reptile i feel pretty good now, just hope i never fall back ever again!!
 
Clomid is known to have a depressive effect, so I'd blame it on that. I would prefer to use an aromatase inhibitor such as nolva or femara during the cycle instead.
 
and PCT should be longer than 2 weeks, especially with 15 weeks on cycle.

PCT should be 3-4 weeks minimum.
 
I always have 5-HTP and SAM-e on had just incase post cycle depression kicks in..........A few years ago it hit me hard. .....Really hard. Nowadays these two products are a safety net.
 
Cyphon said:
I always have 5-HTP and SAM-e on had just incase post cycle depression kicks in..........A few years ago it hit me hard. .....Really hard. Nowadays these two products are a safety net.[/QUOTE


Can you elaborate on "5-HTP and SAM-e" please?
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wow... glad to see your not still depressed. What kind of long term travel are you doing? if it's domestic... you can always prepackage a weeks worth or months worth, and ship it to where you're staying, or have someone you trust drop it priority mail after you give them the address. Or, just order small amounts from some domestic to where you are staying.

If you're out of the country, find out laws and pharmacies in the country you're in near where you are staying and take advantage of the fact you won't goto jail ... walk in the store, and have fun shopping.. LOL.

If you out to see on a boat, then maybe stick to more orals. No one ever got in trouble for loving to take concentrated vitamins (instead of the single mutlivitamin) each day.. i used to take 36 vitamins a day ;) people thought I was nuts.. but what do they know?

Just a few ideas...
 
sandiego said:
Cyphon said:
I always have 5-HTP and SAM-e on had just incase post cycle depression kicks in..........A few years ago it hit me hard. .....Really hard. Nowadays these two products are a safety net.[/QUOTE


Can you elaborate on "5-HTP and SAM-e" please?
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Well in short 5-htp doesnt need a carrier to cross the blood brain barrier like L-tryptophan and therefore it easily crosses and converts into serotonin which is ,along with dopamine, our feel good nuerotransmitter.

SAMe is a methyl donor.. Methylation is an essential process in ensuring the proper function of a number of organ systems.

SAMe-catalyzed methylation reations promote the synthesis of nuerotransmitters, which have the potential to improve mood. SAMe may also upregulate the production of phosphatidylcholine, supporting cognition.

On top of that SAMe enhances liver synthesis of glutathione, an antioxidant. Glutathione promotes detox and liver protection. Some studies I read show SAMe may protect liver tissue from injury caused by a number of toxins.


Anyway when your coming off a cycle your nueronetwork tends to get out of wack due to the lower levels of anabolic hormones while at the same time getting hit with rushes of cortisol.......

In short steroids cause and increase of serotonin and dopamine creating a feel good sensation. Coming off causes a decline of these nuerotransmitters causing some of us to feel sluggish, tired and depressed.

These supps can help.
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Cyphon said:
I always have 5-HTP and SAM-e on had just incase post cycle depression kicks in..........
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Big bump to that I keep 5-HTP on hand just in case but post cycle depression can happen so your not the first to exp this. It will pass just give it time.
 
Here are a couple of quick thoughts.

If you am doing injections twice a week, just give yourself a weeks worth before you go and take the orals with you. This is OK for up to ten days if you are using AAS with a long half life. If you take them with you, just premix things (e.g. put the test C and the Deca in the same vial in the correct ratio.)

In terms of depression, don't screw around with things. See a doc and tell him/her you are depressed. Wellbutrin causes no sexual side effects; lexapro and most of the other ones can cause those sides for something like half of the folks who take them - though some make you hungry as hell so they might be good for bulking! All of the drugs are equally effective on average - the newer ones just cost a whole hell of a lot more and have fewer sides. But some folks respond to some drugs and not others. The sides kick in before you start to feel better, so you will know whether to change.

St John's Wort increases the seratonin levels, but don't take it with anti-depressants as it can magnify the effects. In europe it is prescribed for depression. It is alos inexpensive.

Low test can make you depressed, so you might want to get that tested. If it is low, maybe you can get an RX for TRT. Good to have no matter what as if you have insurance you can get test from the pharmacy and they will pay for it just like an RX drug. Also, if you have an RX for a drug you will not get in much trouble if you buy it from the black market.

Depression can be horrible and some folks kill themselves from it so don't mess around. Treat it aggressively and you will get better faster and have a lower relapse rate (e.g. you will be less likely to get it in the future). See a therapist (they are as effective as drugs but the relapse rate is lower while it takes longer to kick in) and take drugs.
 
When on long easters I always wait 2 weeks after my last injection before starting my clomid. I used HCG durning my last Big cycle. It worked wonders. Infact, I didnt even use clomid after my cycle, Also kept many of my gains. So Im a big advacate of HCG. Good luck.
 
normalsucks said:
When on long easters I always wait 2 weeks after my last injection before starting my clomid. I used HCG durning my last Big cycle. It worked wonders. Infact, I didnt even use clomid after my cycle, Also kept many of my gains. So Im a big advacate of HCG. Good luck.
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Big Bump I have used HCG while on every cycle and it has made recovery really easy. I used Nolva only for a Test Prop and Tbol cycle for my PCT but ran HCG throughout and it was not hard at all for me to recover. Again though, this is me and what works for me may not work for others. I run HCG throughout every cycle and will continue to do so. Also, it is not wise to run HCG during PCT as HCG mimics LH and FSH thus not really restoring your body back to it's normal state.
 
w000dy said:
Big Bump I have used HCG while on every cycle and it has made recovery really easy. I used Nolva only for a Test Prop and Tbol cycle for my PCT but ran HCG throughout and it was not hard at all for me to recover. Again though, this is me and what works for me may not work for others. I run HCG throughout every cycle and will continue to do so. Also, it is not wise to run HCG during PCT as HCG mimics LH and FSH thus not really restoring your body back to it's normal state.
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what dosages of hcg do you use throught a cycle
 
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