Hey bro, not trying to come off like a dickhead, but you have a lot of threads asking about all these pills and supps that are suppose to promote growth and just a really hyped up supplements. Save yourself some time, and money also, and stick to the basics, lots of food, protien,glutamine, BCAA, multi-vit. and creatine if you need it. And bigguy is right, get some olive oil to your shakes, and it will give you a good bit more calories and will give you mass.