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Shaptown

Shaptown

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I am going to be buying enough to run my first IGF cycle for 6 weeks at a dosage of 40mcg daily (2x 20mcg applications).

My question is regarding pins. I currently have 30 gauge 1/2" 1cc insulin pins. Can I perform the IM application with these on my triceps and delts effectively? How about my lats, will I need a bigger gauge/longer needle for them?

Lastly, I will obviously be using it for the effects of hyperplasia, however really what I desire is the fat loss effects. I'm only at 12% right now, however I need to shed 3-4% off my love handles and abs. I've been told its bad to apply IGF because its in an acid solution which is not effective for Sub-Q. That being said, is IGF more effective at fat loss being applied IM or Sub-Q?

Am I on the wrong boat here? For what I am looking to accomplish should I be using the expensive HGH?

Thank you in advance for all replies~
 
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all ur questions can be answered by just reading in this forum bro, and who ever you been talking to when you said "ive been told" doesnt know their ass from a hole in the wall,lol, no flame on you bro, but just read a little and ur questions can all be answered
 
Sub-q has always left little bumps and bruises from time to time, but it isn't any less effective. I prefer IM. You should be fine at that bf %. Just make sure to bury the pin.
 
I think you will be fine as well and I guarantee you will see fat loss. You will probably notice a little irritation the first few times but it went away for me.
 
I wouldent reccomend using a slin pin for IM inject. (all tho many may do it) Big risk of the neddle breaking with slight movement. I'd go 25 gauge, However, I dont have personal experience w/ this.
 
muscleitis said:
I wouldent reccomend using a slin pin for IM inject. (all tho many may do it) Big risk of the neddle breaking with slight movement. I'd go 25 gauge, However, I dont have personal experience w/ this.
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IGF is water-based like insulin is. Why give yourself more pain with a larger needle when you don't have to? Plus, the amounts you use are so small, there's no way you'd be able to accurately measure if you used a regular 3cc syringe.
 
Shaptown said:
I am going to be buying enough to run my first IGF cycle for 6 weeks at a dosage of 40mcg daily (2x 20mcg injections).

That being said, is IGF more effective at fat loss being injected IM or Sub-Q?
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IGF would give you a more overall effect when done subQ. When done IM, it causes more localized growth in the muscle it is injected into. If fat loss is your main goal, then subQ is the way to go.

If you are looking to reduce by 3-4% bf, one cycle for 6 weeks will not be enough. IGF works, but it doesn't work like magic. It will help you obtain fat loss of perhaps 1%, but diet will get you there much better, especially since IGF tends to increase one's hunger so that you end up eating more.
 
saudades said:
IGF is water-based like insulin is. Why give yourself more pain with a larger needle when you don't have to? Plus, the amounts you use are so small, there's no way you'd be able to accurately measure if you used a regular 3cc syringe.
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So as not to break the needle. Sub Q the needle will easly move. In a muscle it can snap off. Now this is just my nursing experience, not actual usage on myself. I'm sure most can manage w/ a slin dart thoe.
 
Well, what would you be doing to make it snap off? If you can't push it in because of scar tissue, then you should try somewhere else. Even regular 3cc pins can snap off, but the point is to go straight in and out so that doesn't happen, right? If you've done nursing, then you should be able to do injections better than the rest of us, no need to be scared of a slin pin. Seriously, you won't be able to measure the correct amount with a 3cc pin.
 
me and a lot of other people have done IM with slin pins...never heard of it snapping off-possibility is there but like it was said before-straight in, straight out, no prob.
 
hey guys. Just received my IGF today. One problem:

It is dosed at 1000mcg/ml, and therefore I need to draw out .02ml. This is near impossible on a 1cc insulin syringe as is what I have.

My question:

Can I dilute the IGF with 4ml of Bacteriostatic Water so that it is dosed at .1ml = 20mcg? I know the calculation is right, however I want to be sure I can dilute it with bacteriostatic water and that it will still be safe to inject. I'm assuming it is. Thank you.
 
not sure I understand the question-if you want 20mcg-that would be 2 ticks on the insulin pin (1/2 cc pin is what I use)
 
i understand that it is 2 ticks. It is hard to accurately pull up exactly that amount without a tiny bit of air.

my question again:

the IGF is 1000mcg contained in 1 ml. I want to add 4 ml of Bacteriostatic Water to dilute it so that its .1ml for 20mcg....
 
hmm, i guess you could dilute it, but if it were me I would just draw what you want and then push the air back in until you are left with nothing but the the 2 ticks you desire
 
I used 30mcgs and just put a little extra each time. It may not be exact but the tick marks are gonna put you very close. I never had a problem with air. I would always draw a little, put it back in and use the added pressure to get it out with no air. Hope that helps.
 
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