Rhode Island to change its name?

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PROVIDENCE, R.I. – This state's official name — The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations — is more than just a mouthful. To many, it evokes stinging reminders of Rhode Island's prime role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Voters next Tuesday will decide whether to change the name by dropping the words "and Providence Plantations." The issue has been debated for years, but lawmakers last year authorized a ballot question for the first time following an impassioned debate over race relations, ancestry and history.

"You go anywhere and you mention plantations and what automatically comes to a person's mind is slavery," said Nick Figueroa, 41, a member of a legislative minority advisory coalition that backs changing the name.

Supporters of the referendum see the ballot question as a chance to erase the state's links to slavery and remove a word they associate with human bondage and suffering. But opponents, including Gov. Don Carcieri, note that the state name actually has nothing to do with slavery and that, in any case, changing it will do nothing to alter history.

Michael Vorenberg, a Brown University history professor, said he understands the contemporary connotation of the word "plantations" but favors keeping the name because it provokes questions.

"People might naturally say, 'What does that word mean and why is it in the state name?' And that may lead to a discussion of the role of slavery in the history of Rhode Island, in the history of New England," Vorenberg said.

The referendum's prospects are unclear. The issue has been overshadowed by a competitive gubernatorial race and congressional elections, and advocates of the name change haven't run advertisements. The four leading gubernatorial candidates all oppose it.

"The overall concerns right now are jobs and the economy, and I think that's foremost in people's minds, as opposed to altering the name," Figueroa said.

Many Rhode Islanders might not even know its formal name. It isn't listed on modern-day maps, though it is on the state seal, is found in many official state documents and can be heard in the courtroom when the judge is announced.

The phrase "Providence Plantations" appeared in the royal charter granted in 1663 by King Charles II to the colony of Rhode Island. At the time, "Plantation" was a general term for settlement or colony. In this case, it referred to the merger of the Providence settlement, which was founded by minister Roger Williams following his banishment from the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and nearby towns into a single colony.

Keith Stokes, who is multiracial and can trace his family's arrival to Newport back centuries, said the debate over the state name ignores Rhode Island's legacy as a colony founded on religious tolerance, where Jews, Quakers and other minorities settled in large numbers after being rejected elsewhere. The principle of separation of church and state is laid out in the colony's charter long before being formalized in the Bill of Rights.

"It has all these people who have been cast out because they worship differently and they all land in Rhode Island," said Stokes, who is also executive director of the state's economic development corporation. "We have so many stories to share, we have such rich histories."

Proponents of the name change say they recognize the word "plantations" was not initially associated with slavery, but argue the original meaning is irrelevant — especially because 18th century Rhode Island emerged at the forefront of a thriving industry in which local merchants got rich off the exchange of slaves, rum, sugar and molasses among New England, the Caribbean and West Africa.

They say "plantations" is inextricably linked to slavery, just as the swastika — traditionally a harmonious symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism — has since been adopted as an emblem of Nazi Germany and is today associated with ethnic hatred.

The name change had previously been debated by the General Assembly but wasn't approved for a referendum until last year, when a group of primarily African-American lawmakers made a strong push and spoke of racial divisions and the lingering negative connotations of the word "plantations." Even some legislators who said they were personally ambivalent agreed to put the issue to the voters after seeing how strongly their colleagues felt.

Figueroa said he didn't know how much it would cost to change the name but expected it would be minimal. He said the focus was on phasing out the name on state correspondence but not on changing the state seal embedded in the floor of the Statehouse.

The ballot question in itself is a victory, regardless of what voters decide, said Harold Metts, a black state senator who helped lead the effort for the referendum.

"At least people understand why we feel the way we feel. For me, that's part of healing," Metts said.
 
it's nothing more than a money maker for the state......they'll have to sell new license plates, id cards, shops will have shirts,sweatshirts, posters, etc with the new name......it reminds me of the pro sports teams using those stupid ass "throwback" jerseys......now instead of a fan buying just a home or just an away jersey to wear, they now can choose from several different jerseys or own them all.......I managed a shoe store/sports retail store (the referee shirt wearing guys) for several years and i hate throwback jerseys with a passion
 
But opponents, including Gov. Don Carcieri, note that the state name actually has nothing to do with slavery and that, in any case, changing it will do nothing to alter history.

This line says it all for me. Slavery happened!!! Not talking about it or referencing it will not change that. Who cares? It's part of the history of our country. Deal with it!
 
heaven forbid someone gets offended about something they never experienced and never directly affected them.

and it is all about money, the state could give a rats ass about others being offended.
 
heaven forbid someone gets offended about something they never experienced and never directly affected them.

and it is all about money, the state could give a rats ass about others being offended.

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heaven forbid someone gets offended about something they never experienced and never directly affected them.

And it is all about money, the state could give a rats ass about others being offended.


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All this racism shit is bullshit. Its black people playing the card to get their way and be treated differently than everyone. Where I live a black person will call anyone racist that disagrees with them. They're the only ones that bring up race and its constant! You've got BET, Black History Month, Ebony Magazine, African America Film Festival, all black dating programs, most talented BLACK musician shows, NAACP etc.... Even the name.... African American... have they seen Africa? Does their aunt live there? Most bask in the guilt that they can generate over their ancestors slavery, they don't want anyone to forget shit, they just want more press oer the "poor me, I'm black, I need more free money".
These are the asses. Who bring all this bullshit up. Normal people work all around us and in my experience don't even refer to themselves as black or african american, just people.
 
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