I'm sure to get alot of juice flowing today. I just want to know once and for all what's the deal with all the kids on the boards? That's fine if your hear to do your homework but i read threads of these large cycles or how massive someone is and go to see a pic of the guy and he looks like he lost his way to the weightroom? Don't get me wrong there are alot of vets and big mofo's on the boards but thier seriously outnumbered by newbies that think gear is the latest fad and just have to try it. give me a break some try training a couple years when your young your going to gain just as much clean then with gear. there is some serious muscle dysmorphia going around.