Some good points you made there coachk. I too thing it is wide open between 147 and 160. Only thing is Forrest is a good champion, and his fight with Mosley was no fluke. He executed the perfect fight, and it paid off. Honestly I wouldn't mind putting his name up there with the likes of De La Hoya and Trinidad. He is that good, but was never given the chance to prove it. If you really look at it, he has all the tools to compete with anyone. He has good hand speed, puts combinations together, a decent defense, listens to his corner, adjusts in the ring, and as far as I can tell now he's probably one of the best, if not the best power puncher at 147. Not to mention that he's not a natural welterweight, and shouldn't have any problems moving up in the future. As far as everyone else I still believe Trinidad will prevail. At this time in boxing it's quite clear that age isn't a big issue so Tito's real age, if it isn't true that he's 29, shouldn't matter. De La Hoya has gone to far up in weight, and should've stayed at 147. His power has decrease and honestly I doubt he can handle Trinidad's power or pressure at any weight over 147. Vargas has already proved he can't take a good punch, so his chances of being the best now is quite slim. With Hopkins its a different story. He does have the chin to stand up to just about anyone, but he's not a natural boxer. Up until the Trinidad fight he was basically a dirty fighter. All he did was hold, hit, and frustrate his opponents until he wore then down. Then in the late rounds he would take over. Tactics like that wont work with Tito, he's too experienced a fighter for that, and can get dirty at times himself. Plus Hopkins used to take a bit more punishment that way, which also isn't wise to do with Trinidad. The thing that people fail to see is Trinidad wasn't fighting his normal fight. All he wanted to do was knock Hopkins out cause of all those mind games he played. On top of that Trinidad literally followed Hopkins around all night taking everything thrown at him, and it still took the whole fight for him to finally break down. You can bet that the next go around popa Trinidad isn't gonna let him get caught up in all that mess, and will make sure he stays on track. I really dont think he can knock out Hopkins, but he can out box him any day. Everybody under 160, just can't handle the power.