Liquid dbol gone lumpy

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Ok so made liquid suspension 1st made cialis (1g) 20mg/ml 50/50 180proof/glycerince, suspending evenly and fine.

Same with dbol dissolved 2.5g in 25ml 180proof till clear then added glycerince to top it upto 50ml and its gone lumpy.

Now I'm making suspension not solution, was it the wrong idead to let the dbol disolve then crash? Should I have added the glyverince at the same time so it stayed milky and didn't disolve? Or is the mg/ml just too high for suspension?

Next time I will either make 50-100mg/ml in 100% 180proof.

Or

20-30mg/ml dbol in 1/4 180proof-3/4 glycerine to proven it disolving and crashing.


?????


Also tried the none alcohol version 50-50 water-glycerince with my aromasin and its just lumped up straigth away was ruinined didn't work.

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Ok checked it today and it looks better, virtually no lumps and a lot more of a milky colour, I think the problem was I let it disolve then it crashed, next time I will use glycerine sooner so it doesn't disolve since its suspension I'm making, and if I go for solution I'll use 100% 180proof.

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Yeh just thought I'd make suspension, I'm squirting it into a drink to drink back so any solution will instantly crash anyway. It looks fine now tho will prob make 30mg/ml next time tho.

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Yeh, my cialis at 15mg/ml is perfect, will prob try 20-30mg/ml and keep orals at that dose.

The 2.5g dbol disolved in 25ml 180proof no problem that mad it 100mg/ml but adding it to a drink instantly crashes it so I don't see the point in making oral solutions because I aint squirting it in my mouth lol, it would defo wake you up in the morning lol.

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did that last wknd. 1st batch made with 151- clear when heated, let sit and it crystallized. 2nd batch 10ml 151 alc. 9ml peg.300 better shake and take. 3rd batch-9ml 151 alc. 10ml glyseryn, ahhh hit the sweet spot!
 
Sorry for stupid question, but what is the difference between a suspension and solution??
Suspension is water based or what?
 
Solution is the raw completely disolved so its clear, which for orals is normally either pure 180-190proof or a mix of 180-190 proof and peg300 or peg400.

Some orals only need the alcohol like dbol, others need peg300 and the od few are better with peg 400.

Peg apparently tastes like sh1t tho so iv refuse to make oral solution.

Oral suspension is the raw suspended in the solution but not disloved so you need to shake it pre use, its not clear, it will look like milk as the raw isn't disolved.

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delcapone said:
did that last wknd. 1st batch made with 151- clear when heated, let sit and it crystallized. 2nd batch 10ml 151 alc. 9ml peg.300 better shake and take. 3rd batch-9ml 151 alc. 10ml glyseryn, ahhh hit the sweet spot!
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My 5g dbol disolved completly in 25ml 180proof but I wanted suspension so made it 50/50 proof/glyercine since its cheaper. Next time I will probably stick to 30mg/ml and see if it doesn't lump up, its fine as it is working great, just isn't as fine as my cialis 15mg/ml

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stone14 said:
Solution is the raw completely disolved so its clear, which for orals is normally either pure 180-190proof or a mix of 180-190 proof and peg300 or peg400.

Some orals only need the alcohol like dbol, others need peg300 and the od few are better with peg 400.

Peg apparently tastes like sh1t tho so iv refuse to make oral solution.

Oral suspension is the raw suspended in the solution but not disloved so you need to shake it pre use, its not clear, it will look like milk as the raw isn't disolved.

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Thanks!
So, I thought the 180 proof was only there for antibacterial reasons?
 
That aswell plus it helps to thin the powder and glyercine solution out, if you only use glyercine it will lump up and end up a mess, as it will with water+glyercine, I fukd my aromasin up trying to use water+glyercine. With water+glyercine the raw just stuck to the side of the glass it was usless, alcohol as a solvent prevents this so it holds in suspension a lot better.

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Iv just made 50ml of nolvadex at 30mg/ml with 50/50 180proof/glyercine,

And its still completley disolved clear apart from the odd floater and alittle cloud on the bottom,

Added the raw to the beaker, then the 180 then stirred, then the glyercine, heated a little while stirring because my glyercine is stored in the fridge,

Turned milky as expected, put into my 50ml bottle then 5mins later it was crystal clear.

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stone14 said:
Ok so made liquid suspension 1st made cialis (1g) 20mg/ml 50/50 180proof/glycerince, suspending evenly and fine.

Same with dbol dissolved 2.5g in 25ml 180proof till clear then added glycerince to top it upto 50ml and its gone lumpy.

Now I'm making suspension not solution, was it the wrong idead to let the dbol disolve then crash? Should I have added the glyverince at the same time so it stayed milky and didn't disolve? Or is the mg/ml just too high for suspension?

Next time I will either make 50-100mg/ml in 100% 180proof.

Or

20-30mg/ml dbol in 1/4 180proof-3/4 glycerine to proven it disolving and crashing.


?????


Also tried the none alcohol version 50-50 water-glycerince with my aromasin and its just lumped up straigth away was ruinined didn't work.

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You are doing it in the correct order.. however, since your alcohol is not 192(it's not far off, but enough that you should bring potency down to keep it from doing what it did)...change the final product potency to 25-35mg/ml(whichever is easier for you to calculate to change at this point(generally I would say, use 25mg/ml as your target potency, but it seems Ypu are decent at math, wo make it whichever you would like)

Since it has already clumped on you, this is how you will want to fix it:
Add the additional alcohol(only the alcohol, for now), warm the oral susp/sltn in a hot water bath, on stovetop...the powder will re-dissolve?... Once it's re-dissolved, add the glycerin you calculated earlier and cap and shake well!! This should take care of it for good!! Let me know if you have any other q's, I'm happy to help where I can...
 
I found a solution to my lumps , put the powder in the beaker , add the solvent(whatever solvent your using) just enough to cover the powder, put it on stove top, preferably electric, since you may be using grain alcohol in a pan with a little water in it, this melts the pwder into a liquid form and i had no problem getting my dbol clear, and stayed clear for over a week now. I'll be using this procedure with all my liquids now.
 
I'm confused how can it be evenly dosed if it crashed into a suspension? Do you shake before each use? If so why not just throw it in oil and shake before use? Sorry if this is a stupid question?
 
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