Newbie homebrew question

viciouscycle

viciouscycle

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Hey guys, I just made a batch of test e.
it is supposed to be 250mg/ml. Here's the calculations I used for 100 ml.
25g powder
2% BA
10% BB
64.5 GSO
I used a weight of .943 that I found on another site and filtered through a .22 whatman
The problem I am having massive pip. I am thinking I should have used .75 as my powder weight and that the concentration is to high, probably around 320mg/ml.
how can I cut this down?! Add some GSO to each vile? Would it need to be heated?
 
So if I use .85 the amount of GSO changes to 66.75ml. Making a difference of 2.25 ml, divided evenly across 10
vials comes out to about .25ml.
do I just add it to the vials?
I have filtered GSO would that be sufficient or should it be run through a filter again.
 
Ba = .02 = 2%
bb = .18 = 18%
oil = 58.75 ml.

at a weight of .85

is what ur formula should have looked like for 250mg/ml
 
Not sure on ur math but have u tried cutting it with another injectable or heating it?

monkeywrentch may be able to help as far as adding oil
 
viciouscycle said:
Hey guys, I just made a batch of test e.
it is supposed to be 250mg/ml. Here's the calculations I used for 100 ml.
25g powder
2% BA
10% BB
64.5 GSO
I used a weight of .943 that I found on another site and filtered through a .22 whatman
The problem I am having massive pip. I am thinking I should have used .75 as my powder weight and that the concentration is to high, probably around 320mg/ml.
how can I cut this down?! Add some GSO to each vile? Would it need to be heated?
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What's up Bro, sucks to have PIP, and no need to with a 250/1, well the easiest way to make a concentration to what you want in theory is to forget about powder weight and decimals in your equations. And a 100-250ml beaker will be your best piece of equipment. So, going by the literature you would in theory have:
25g of X divided by 100ml of Y, X/Y= 250/1.... Ok so, now that 100ml will be made up of Oil/BA/BB, best numbers to start with is 2%BA, 18%BB, that means in 100 there should be 2ml BA, 18ml BB, now add oil up to 100ml mark, being sure you read the beaker lines from eye------level. Heat, filter, your done.
Ok, adding oil will help, but adding BB will be a better solution, easiest way is to fix the problem you have is to add 1ml .2 micron filtered BB to the vials, no heating needed. No your ratios will be off, but you've already got that problem. Now a second solution is this, filter oil in a seperate vial, add 1/2-1 ml to every injection, this will cut but ratios will be the same because the extra oil is going in, experiment with one vial at a time, keep track of what your doing. See which one you like best. In theory, by the books you should be ok.
 
I found it on MC (posted by Presser):
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Sterilizing the Gear

Now heat your oven to 150 degrees Celcius. Wrap the vial in aluminum foil with the non-shiny side out. This helps prevent the vial from shattering when you take it out. Again, stick a small (usually 1" 23g) needle through the rubber stopper off to one side and put it in the oven to bake for 1 hour (set it on a clean cookie sheet). After an hour; shut the oven off and let it stand for another hour to cool slightly. When the time is up; put on oven mitts and open the oven door and pick up the vial and immediately remove the needle from the vial. Allow it to sit until it reaches room temperature. When it has cooled, wipe the stopper with alcohol and stick another new small needle into the vial to allow the vacuum inside to be eliminated. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BOIL OFF EXCESS ALCOHOL AND KILL ANY BUGS IN THE GEAR. YOU NOW HAVE A VIAL OF SUSTANON THAT HAS NO BACTERIAL COLONIES, SPORES, LIVING BACTERIA OR ANYTHING ELSE FLOATING AROUND IN IT. THIS SHOULD HELP ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE SUSTANON FLU.
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MonkeyWrench said:
What's up Bro, sucks to have PIP, and no need to with a 250/1, well the easiest way to make a concentration to what you want in theory is to forget about powder weight and decimals in your equations. And a 100-250ml beaker will be your best piece of equipment. So, going by the literature you would in theory have:
25g of X divided by 100ml of Y, X/Y= 250/1.... Ok so, now that 100ml will be made up of Oil/BA/BB, best numbers to start with is 2%BA, 18%BB, that means in 100 there should be 2ml BA, 18ml BB, now add oil up to 100ml mark, being sure you read the beaker lines from eye------level. Heat, filter, your done.
Ok, adding oil will help, but adding BB will be a better solution, easiest way is to fix the problem you have is to add 1ml .2 micron filtered BB to the vials, no heating needed. No your ratios will be off, but you've already got that problem. Now a second solution is this, filter oil in a seperate vial, add 1/2-1 ml to every injection, this will cut but ratios will be the same because the extra oil is going in, experiment with one vial at a time, keep track of what your doing. See which one you like best. In theory, by the books you should be ok.
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This bro^^^ monkeywrench provided a GREAT method for you to use.. as far as pip, some enanth seems to have a LOT of pip. It's kind of inherent in some of the 'waxy' type raws
 
I'm gonna chock it up to inexperience , I have since done a batch of test cyp 200 and another batch of test e250 and both turned out good. I found that if I cut the 1st batch 50/50 with some other test it's fine,so there's no loss. Thanks for all the help!!
 
MonkeyWrench and MD are dead on man. I have a high tendency to PIP with damn near every compound I use. I don't know the exact reason for this, but almost every new oil I use gives me a hell of a time for the first shot. So, I go ahead and bake my vials every single time. I wish I could figure this out as well. It's a literal Pain In My Ass!!! lol
 
Bump, funny looking back at when I first started brewing and what I have learnt over time.
pretty sure the brewing process was good and I had a batch contaminated with carbolic acid.
 
I remember when I was new to it too. I figured how could that be right and why the hell does it hurt, its the same as everything else I pin. Fun to look back and see how far you've come in knowledge.
Austin, most compounds don't use BB. I know I don't in all of mine, and I filter everything twice. I don't have pip issues and with the test e, you can see if the processs has been completed or not, it wont be as sticky, when you do the melt test there will be a separation for sure and even taste can tell you of acid is present-I use a litmus test, you can get it at any hobby lobby or science supply store.
 
That stuff was like paste and had a lot of debris floating before filtering I ended up junking it all. For the most part I just stick with cyp and haven't had any problems.
 
viciouscycle said:
That stuff was like paste and had a lot of debris floating before filtering I ended up junking it all. For the most part I just stick with cyp and haven't had any problems.
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after reading the recent posts on Test E, that's exactly what I've been thinking about doing lol. i think I'd go with Cyp at 200mg/ml instead of 250mg/ml because Cyp can be a bitch to hold at 250 without EO. might try a small batch of 225mg/ml just out of curiosity
 
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