Craze supplement has a meth-like compound in it

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  • Craze, which won BodyBuilding.com’s New Supplement of the Year award in 2012, contains the substance called N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine or N,a-DEPEA, according to new study
  • N,a-DEPEA is illegal drug methamphetamine's chemical cousin
  • Samples have between 20 to 35 milligrams of the drug in one serving size
  • The label says it contains a different chemical, N,N-DEPEA, as an ingredient, but researchers did not find that substance in the supplement

An award-winning bodybuilder supplement has come under fire because it contains a chemical compound similar to the illegal drug methamphetamine.

Craze, which won BodyBuilding.com’s New Supplement of the Year award in 2012, contains the substance called N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine or N,a-DEPEA.

The find, which was published on Monday in the peer-reviewed Drug Testing and Analysis Journal, shows that Craze samples from different suppliers have between 20 to 35 milligrams of the drug in one serving size.


According to the scientists, these dosages suggest it was ‘not a minor contaminant resulting from the manufacturing process’.

N,α-DEPEA has never been studied in humans, according to the study.


'Its stimulant, addictive and other adverse effects in humans are entirely unknown. Regulatory agencies should act expeditiously to warn consumers and remove N,α-DEPEA from all dietary supplements,' the study said.

Dr Pieter Cohen, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and lead author of the study, said the drug is a methamphetamine analog, or a ‘cousin’ to meth.

Scientists first discovered the new drug approximately three years ago in South Korea.


‘Criminal-chemists start with a known drug - in this case methamphetamine, then in their factor they start making little changes to it,’ Cohen told CNN.

‘Here, they pop a few extra carbon and hydrogen molecules onto it. But the main structure/backbone/skeleton of the drug remains the same.’



In July, USA Today published an investigative piece on supplement designer Matt Cahill, ‘a convicted felon who has a history of selling risky dietary supplements, including products with ingredients linked to severe liver injury and at least one death’, the newspaper said.

Driven Sports said on its website in response to the allegations that Craze was ‘a legal supplement that provides people with a tool to enhance their workouts, by combining natural extracts to increase their energy’.


‘Craze conforms to all U.S. federal regulatory requirements and is proven safe when used as directed... Driven Sports has commissioned extensive testing of Craze from a reputable, independent laboratory, which conclusively establishes that the product does not contain any illegal stimulants.’


Bodybuilding.com also posted a message on its website, saying they had ‘conducted product, blood and urine tests on Craze numerous times and all tested negative for amphetamines’.


One of the samples used in the recently published study on Craze products was sent to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) last year, and the study authors' conclusions were sent to the FDA in May.

While the FDA is in charge of regulating dietary supplements, manufacturers and distributors are not required to get FDA approval before selling their products.

NSF International, a public health organisation involved in the study, also found N,a-DEPEA in a different manufacturer's supplement, Gaspari Nutrition's fat burning drug, Detonate.


Detonate has been removed from the company's website and from Bodybuilding.com's website, however it is still being sold on Amazon.
 
Haha, I stocked up on the Angel Dust product that was out which had DMAA in it. I love that shit, I've never tried Craze though, if I can find it cheap, I might have to buy some though
 
If Caffiene hadn't been discovered or used in supplements until this day and age these assholes would ban it and arrest users and sellers of Caffiene . It's sad how over regulated this country has become
 
If Caffiene hadn't been discovered or used in supplements until this day and age these assholes would ban it and arrest users and sellers of Caffiene . It's sad how over regulated this country has become

I completely agree, they ban more supplements than they do anything else. Hell, how many times did sucralose get denied by the FDA before it finally passed?? And it only passed because a senator or governor had a hand in it at the time it passed.

I just don't get who has the hard on for bodybuilding supplements. We bust our ass in the gym, if we're willing to take it, why take it away? I understand there's no comparison to illicit drugs, but once they ban these products, they become harder to get than crack, heroin, cocaine and other illegal shit.
 
Who? Big Pharma lobbyists! They pressure the laws , the law breaks up the Mexican connection and rejuvenation clinics and voila every other commercial on tv sells testosterone cream, Roll ons ect! They know exactly what there doing!
 
And keep in mind even the American Medical Association testified before congress stating steroids specifically testosterone should not be classified with heroin and coke but it didn't help, big Pharma lobbyist got their way so they would have the monopoly on testosterone by way of legal scripts cause they know it works and works great for men
 
And keep in mind even the American Medical Association testified before congress stating steroids specifically testosterone should not be classified with heroin and coke but it didn't help, big Pharma lobbyist got their way so they would have the monopoly on testosterone by way of legal scripts cause they know it works and works great for men

Yea, it's total bullshit. What's been black balled by the public for so long is now being masked as "T" instead of testosterone to be classified as steroids. People think that because they get it from a doctor that it is totally different from what bodybuilders or gym rats use. It's just ignorant, but that's the American way these days
 
And keep in mind even the American Medical Association testified before congress stating steroids specifically testosterone should not be classified with heroin and coke but it didn't help, big Pharma lobbyist got their way so they would have the monopoly on testosterone by way of legal scripts cause they know it works and works great for men

Don't even get me started on that one. That whole thing was because JOE BIDEN pushed it through because when he was in college:

"Senator Biden has admitted that his anti-steroid zealotry originated with his failure to make the sports team in college; he was certain he was outperformed by some steroid user! As a senator, he has used his power and influence to get back at those superior athletes in sports who may have been using steroids. Of course, he is only figuratively punishing those athletes from his college days by criminalizing anabolic steroids for all individuals who use steroids for non-medical purposes." —excerpt from Rick Collins testimony

Yea, it's total bullshit. What's been black balled by the public for so long is now being masked as "T" instead of testosterone to be classified as steroids. People think that because they get it from a doctor that it is totally different from what bodybuilders or gym rats use. It's just ignorant, but that's the American way these days

That marketing drives me nuts. Every commercial says "you may have low 'T'" but the public seemingly has no idea that this is the very same thing at which the media keeps slinging propaganda.
 
That marketing drives me nuts. Every commercial says "you may have low 'T'" but the public seemingly has no idea that this is the very same thing at which the media keeps slinging propaganda.

Are you kidding me, of course men have low test levels when they age. It's natural, your body is going backwards. The healthiest I am is while I'm "on" on just test/sust. I'd love to see the supportive argument on how alcohol is safer than test. How many families have been ruined by alcoholics and smokers. I agree some other gear is more "dangerous" (I use that term loosely) but still no more dangerous than smoking or drinking.
 
Don't even get me started on that one. That whole thing was because JOE BIDEN pushed it through because when he was in college:

"Senator Biden has admitted that his anti-steroid zealotry originated with his failure to make the sports team in college; he was certain he was outperformed by some steroid user! As a senator, he has used his power and influence to get back at those superior athletes in sports who may have been using steroids. Of course, he is only figuratively punishing those athletes from his college days by criminalizing anabolic steroids for all individuals who use steroids for non-medical purposes." —excerpt from Rick Collins testimony



That marketing drives me nuts. Every commercial says "you may have low 'T'" but the public seemingly has no idea that this is the very same thing at which the media keeps slinging propaganda.

I had no idea that's why Biden has a hard on for all supplements, but it certainly makes sense
 
same goes for all ths reporters who try to hang steroid users, theyre all the people who got picked on and couldnt get picked in gym class to play sports so they now have a hard on for athletes
 
  • Craze, which won BodyBuilding.com’s New Supplement of the Year award in 2012, contains the substance called N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine or N,a-DEPEA, according to new study
  • N,a-DEPEA is illegal drug methamphetamine's chemical cousin
  • Samples have between 20 to 35 milligrams of the drug in one serving size
  • The label says it contains a different chemical, N,N-DEPEA, as an ingredient, but researchers did not find that substance in the supplement

An award-winning bodybuilder supplement has come under fire because it contains a chemical compound similar to the illegal drug methamphetamine.

Craze, which won BodyBuilding.com’s New Supplement of the Year award in 2012, contains the substance called N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine or N,a-DEPEA.

The find, which was published on Monday in the peer-reviewed Drug Testing and Analysis Journal, shows that Craze samples from different suppliers have between 20 to 35 milligrams of the drug in one serving size.


According to the scientists, these dosages suggest it was ‘not a minor contaminant resulting from the manufacturing process’.

N,α-DEPEA has never been studied in humans, according to the study.


'Its stimulant, addictive and other adverse effects in humans are entirely unknown. Regulatory agencies should act expeditiously to warn consumers and remove N,α-DEPEA from all dietary supplements,' the study said.

Dr Pieter Cohen, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and lead author of the study, said the drug is a methamphetamine analog, or a ‘cousin’ to meth.

Scientists first discovered the new drug approximately three years ago in South Korea.


‘Criminal-chemists start with a known drug - in this case methamphetamine, then in their factor they start making little changes to it,’ Cohen told CNN.

‘Here, they pop a few extra carbon and hydrogen molecules onto it. But the main structure/backbone/skeleton of the drug remains the same.’



In July, USA Today published an investigative piece on supplement designer Matt Cahill, ‘a convicted felon who has a history of selling risky dietary supplements, including products with ingredients linked to severe liver injury and at least one death’, the newspaper said.

Driven Sports said on its website in response to the allegations that Craze was ‘a legal supplement that provides people with a tool to enhance their workouts, by combining natural extracts to increase their energy’.


‘Craze conforms to all U.S. federal regulatory requirements and is proven safe when used as directed... Driven Sports has commissioned extensive testing of Craze from a reputable, independent laboratory, which conclusively establishes that the product does not contain any illegal stimulants.’


Bodybuilding.com also posted a message on its website, saying they had ‘conducted product, blood and urine tests on Craze numerous times and all tested negative for amphetamines’.


One of the samples used in the recently published study on Craze products was sent to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) last year, and the study authors' conclusions were sent to the FDA in May.

While the FDA is in charge of regulating dietary supplements, manufacturers and distributors are not required to get FDA approval before selling their products.

NSF International, a public health organisation involved in the study, also found N,a-DEPEA in a different manufacturer's supplement, Gaspari Nutrition's fat burning drug, Detonate.
ff.

Detonate has been removed from the company's website and from Bodybuilding.com's website, however it is still being sold on Amazon.

No damn wonder I didn't blink the whole time while using that stuff.
 
I smoke some before every workout, works great. lol Hey, some of the most anti steriod polititions look like they
have never even SEEN the inside of a gym. Haters sad but true. I remember when Lyle Alzado got brain cancer.
The headlines were that steriods gave you brain cancer. If that was true, at that time EVERY lineman in football
would have to have had brain cancer. There isnt even common sense when it comes to these people.
 
I smoke some before every workout, works great. lol Hey, some of the most anti steriod polititions look like they
have never even SEEN the inside of a gym. Haters sad but true. I remember when Lyle Alzado got brain cancer.
The headlines were that steriods gave you brain cancer. If that was true, at that time EVERY lineman in football
would have to have had brain cancer. There isnt even common sense when it comes to these people.

yep
 
I smoke some before every workout, works great. lol Hey, some of the most anti steriod polititions look like they
have never even SEEN the inside of a gym. Haters sad but true. I remember when Lyle Alzado got brain cancer.
The headlines were that steriods gave you brain cancer. If that was true, at that time EVERY lineman in football
would have to have had brain cancer. There isnt even common sense when it comes to these people.

The bad part about that was that his own doctor was saying it had nothing to do with steroids, but the media got hung on what Lyle was saying and not what the doctor was saying. As if Lyle knew better than his doctor, I mean all that schooling had to make him dumber than a guy that got hit for a living
 
The bad part about that was that his own doctor was saying it had nothing to do with steroids, but the media got hung on what Lyle was saying and not what the doctor was saying. As if Lyle knew better than his doctor, I mean all that schooling had to make him dumber than a guy that got hit for a living
thats right. his own doctor said it wasnt from steriods. Funny how people only hear what they want to. Not HIS
doctor but his rant while having brain cancer. Makes perfect sense. lol
 
thats right. his own doctor said it wasnt from steriods. Funny how people only hear what they want to. Not HIS
doctor but his rant while having brain cancer. Makes perfect sense. lol


sheep baaaaaa
 
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